Socialists actually vehemently opposed to corporate-backed obamacare!

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posted on Aug, 7 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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US Health Care Lobby Pumps Millions into Obama Plan


In the “debate” over health care, key figures on congressional committees are being bankrolled by health insurers, while representatives of hospitals and the pharmaceutical industry are being consulted at White House meetings.



Any responsibility for employers to provide coverage will be marginalized, with token penalties for noncompliance. And a government-administered “public option”—if it is indeed even offered—will do nothing to alter the overall trajectory of the plan as far as ordinary Americans are concerned. It will be a cut-rate, class-based system providing inferior, rationed care based on cost-cutting “efficiencies.”


Read for the juicy details. Why don't people get that the insurance industry still gets payed in a government option, even single payer.


While the health care industry’s unabashed wooing of Senator Baucus stands out, he is not alone. The health care lobby gave nearly $170 million to Washington politicians in 2007 and 2008, with 54 percent of this going to Democrats.


Both parties are bought and paid for.


Heres another interesting article:

Drug Lobby Demands, and gets, Obama Administration Pledge to Protect Health Care Profits


The Obama White House has acknowledged it made a deal with drug makers to block moves in Congress to obtain any cost savings beyond the $80 billion already agreed to by the pharmaceutical lobby.



In an industry that generates annual US sales of more than $300 billion, the $80 billion is minimal. The more likely scenario is that $80 billion will be more than offset by the increased profits the pharmaceutical industry stands to make on prescriptions purchased by new patients under insurance coverage that they would be mandated to purchase under the new health care legislation.


This one says it all really:


The deal is further evidence of the corporate forces calling the shots in Obama’s health care overhaul. While touring the country claiming the plan will make the health care giants’ “honest,” the administration is cutting behind-the-scenes deals to protect and boost their profits.


The insurance companies have seen this coming and know what they're doing. Do you really think they'd be pushing for this bill if it weren't good for them? They made large contributions to both pres campaigns.

Obama is masquerading as a socialist when in fact he is a controlled wall street banker/insurer sock-puppet. Just look at all the CFR, Trilateral Commission, and Bilderburgers in his cabinet. Lets just say it's a large proportion.

He's a total corporate-fascist minion, the biggest fraud of the century.




posted on Aug, 7 2009 @ 09:20 PM
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Yes and all the brain dead Obama supporters act like the government is going to do this out of their own good hearts. I guess it never occurred to the idiots that are fighting over this that big business might be pushing for it. When this thing passes crappy jobs like walmart will not have to pay for healthcare and every bit of it will be transferred to the middle class.... Oh but then again I'm middle class so I am a selfish racist according to the Obama supporters.



posted on Aug, 7 2009 @ 11:26 PM
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why do they believe this after getting reamed over and over again? Think about it. Cui bono? What does the government and the millionaire politicians have to gain by helping us proles? Satisfaction of a job well done?



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 10:31 AM
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This underlines something very important, that most people (even ATSers) fail to grasp: Obama is not a socialist. The Democrats are not pushing a socialist agenda.

As a sociology/economics major, I've read just about every word that Marx ever wrote. This ain't socialism, and the whole "Oh no! Socialists!!!" thing is theater. Don't fall for it.



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 10:49 AM
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Some of us have been saying all along that he's not a Socialist.
I'm glad to see others are finally catching up. By the way, he's not a controlled, Wall Street banker/insurer sock-puppet, either, but he's probably closer to that than a Socialist.



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 11:47 PM
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I think that he's just a realist, who understands that you have to play the game. Sometimes that means giving in to Wall Street; and sometimes that means giving in to Congress; and sometimes it means backing the unions. If some people are right, then that sometimes means giving into the CFR.

I do think that he's a very smart man who genuinely wants to make America a stronger nation, even if he sometimes does things that I don't agree with (and I'm disgusted by people who would like to see us struggle as a nation, just because our President has a name that's followed by a (D)).

But the man is no Socialist. That should be clear as day to anybody who has read the primary Socialist literature.


[edit on 10-8-2009 by theWCH]



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 08:28 AM
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Wow! Someone who expressed my feelings on the matter better than I can! LOL That's a pretty big feat!
I'm going to have to bookmark your post so I can refer to it in the future! It's exactly what I have always thought. Good job!






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