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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 07:39 PM by Rams59lb
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OMG, LMAO... That is cute, very cute. I have a hard enough time writing emails to our officials here in Nevada just to keep us from losing our
freedoms which by the way have been surely gone before this guy came along.
Thanks for the vote of confidence and know that my entire work staff are simply laughing so hard at work now after reading that as they always
nominate me for anything that has to be debated lol.
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 07:47 PM by semperfortis
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What is happening to the country I fought and bled for?
First I am labeled a potential terrorist because I served my country in combat, now we are not allowed to speak our minds?
I have always thought the greatest test of the freedoms we "used to share", was defending those things we most abhor...
Whether you like Rush or hate him, this is the beginning of the end folks....
Semper
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 07:51 PM by KonigKaos
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Wait Wait Wait.....so it was ok to present President Bush almost on a daily basis as Hitler.
Its Usurper Obama that has appointed Czars to his cabinet and has spoken facist, socialist remarks way before he was elected by the brain dead mass of
people that slowly awaken.
This country is in trouble, Obama isnt gonna help us, McCain wouldnt of helped us. The government has become to powerful and it needs to be stopped by
the powers of the people
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 07:52 PM by Rams59lb
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I too served our country for over 12 yrs, the more this Admin shows that they are thin skinned, then the more will be said about them in a negitive
way! That is simply the way people are! It is going to get ugly
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 07:53 PM by drwizardphd
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Originally posted by semperfortis
Whether you like Rush or hate him, this is the beginning of the end folks....
Exactly.
I think this is an issue that all Americans, regardless of political background or personal opinion, should be outraged about.
The Obama administration is literally trying to silence their opposition. First they want you to report those who oppose their healthcare plan, then
they force protesters out of town hall meetings, and now they are trying to silence opposition in the media.
Regardless of how anyone feels about Rush, we should all feel that he deserves to do what he does. It's the American way.
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 07:54 PM by lee anoma
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Is Limbaugh playing the "victim card" again?
I thought after he demonstrated his obvious hypocrisy when he railed against Whites in America getting lighter sentences for drug use, then whined
that his own drug addiction wasn't a "real" one, that he wouldn't dare play victim or let others make him out to be one again.
Guess not.
Okay so a statement about these critics being on "thin ice" and need to "cool it" equates to a threat?
You'd think the White House hired a hitman or something.
Seriously what is with so many conservatives acting like drama queens lately?
Where is all that macho bravado? The gung-ho attitude that dismissed critics with a hand gesture?
Now they can't take mild criticism and whine like "girly men" that it's just not fair!
REMEMBER...not too long ago if any media personality or celebrity criticized the president they were considered "unpatriotic" and had their
livelihood attacked. Sponsors were pressured to break away, commercial gigs were canceled, CD's were bulldozed and radios wouldn't play your
songs.
Now it is the cool thing to do.
Rush is going to be fine, we should worry more about where we end up because I know the elitist Limbaugh won't ever be homeless and on the
unemployment line.
- Lee
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 07:57 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
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Obama has been insulated now since the 2004 Convention in a 'yes' man's world where everyone around him seeks to gain his favor by convincing him
what a genius he is.
Now that he left the barely used cloistered little office in the Senate where he did nothing and accomplished nothing to step out into the lime light
he is encountering people who can and will say "No" and mean it, and well the man just doesn't seem to be able to handle it, the job of President
or life in the real world well.
I don't think he quite understands that getting minorities and kids and dyed in the wool liberals to roll over for him isn't the same as getting
grown ups who really live in the real world, deal with the real world, and understand the real world to roll over for him.
The opposition is only going to stiffen against him and he will be able to do a good job at loading his brain dead fans lips but sadly he will never
be able to teach them to think because the minute that they do, they will see him for what he is, a moron in a fancy suit with an impressive
entourage.
His opponents are able to think though, and will be able to out think him and out strategize him.
The good news is that all he is doing is hastening his own demise from Presidential Politics and frankly that's a good thing, the guy really is just
a moron in a fancy suit.
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 07:58 PM by WhatTheory
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Originally posted by lee anoma
Is Limbaugh playing the "victim card" again?
So what if he is or is not? You are missing the point.
Shouldn't Rush be allowed to do so without having the White House threaten him?
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 07:59 PM by Walkswithfish
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Originally posted by semperfortis
Whether you like Rush or hate him, this is the beginning of the end folks....
It can be the end of their beginning if enough Americans wake up to what is happening.
All it takes is spreading the word, getting people to see what is actually in the legislation they are seeking to force upon us.
Prepare people for what is next, the battle will be the 2010 elections, and they are not going to easily let go of their majority in the house and
senate, prepare for fraud and all out oppression. They are going to do all they can to retain their majority and if they do, the remaining term of
Obama's presidency will bring about the implementation of their agenda, after that, there may be no going back.
The beginning and the end is relative to what we THE PEOPLE do.
Or not do.
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 08:05 PM by jd140
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Okay the White House says that Rush is on thin ice.
If you don't see that as a threat then what do you think Gibbs meant by it? Please enlighten us as to what he could have possibly meant.
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 08:15 PM by Avenginggecko
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Disclaimer: I don't believe the Democrats or the Republicans have handled the situation well. Both sides are throwing around a lot of WW2 rhetoric
that's just stupid. I don't know if anyone's read up on WW2 and what Europe was like before the war broke out, but it was nothing like this. If
raucous town hall meetings turn into bloody riots, people start getting killed, the government actually takes real steps to silence media outlets, and
roving gangs of Democrats/Republicans start jumping their opposites, then we'll have something like WW2.
Us Americans have quite the flare for drama.
So far all that's happening is two diametrically opposed sides getting extremely emotional over a huge piece of legislation, which is understandable
because what's going to go through won't be exactly what either side wants, and since neither side's fundamentalists are willing to budge on the
issue, the war of words starts heating up.
As another poster brought up, this same stuff happened for years after Bush began the Iraq war. Burning effigies, burning flags, nazi symbolism, etc.
I don't see this as any different basically, it's just getting supported by the other side now.
That being said, I watched the video and from the context of the conversation I didn't see Gibbs making a threat. It seemed like he was referring to
thin ice rhetorically, as in anyone who uses nazi symbolism and references is on thin ice because once you pull the swastika card many outside
observers won't take you as seriously because we all know (or should) that the situation then was catastrophically worse than now.
Honest question to those who feel hurt/disenfranchised/afraid due to this: When you saw protesters marking Bush's picture up with swastikas and
marching angrily in our major cities, did you really take them very seriously? Did you think, "There might be civil war for this" or, "I completely
agree with them, we need to pull out immediately!"
Or did you think, "Those Liberals are freaking ridiculous. Wasting their time with those stupid posters marching up and down the street like they
make a difference. They're a laughing stock." Something along those lines, anyway. I live in Texas so I can speak from experience that quite a few
of us here thought along those lines.
Regardless, I seriously doubt the White House meant this in any way to be a threat against Rush Limbaugh...Like they would actually threaten and
remove the Republican poster boy when his base is riled up at its greatest.
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 08:24 PM by jd140
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If you don't see what Gibbs said as a threat then I refer you to my question in the post above yours.
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 08:32 PM by Majic
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Time to break the ice.
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 08:38 PM by Avenginggecko
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I already answered your question in my post. I'll quote it and emphasize it below.
That being said, I watched the video and from the context of the conversation I didn't see Gibbs making a threat. It seemed like he was
referring to thin ice rhetorically, as in anyone who uses nazi symbolism and references is on thin ice because once you pull the swastika card many
outside observers won't take you as seriously because we all know (or should) that the situation then was catastrophically worse than
now.
Care to address anything in my post? Like I said, I'm not assigning blame or credibility to either side. Just hoping we all remember that these same
situations happened to Liberals/Democrats during the peak of the Bush Administration in nearly the exact form and fashion it's happening to
Conservatives/Republicans now.
Sometimes I feel like we're all on two sides of a coin constantly being flipped in the air. Just wish sometimes we'd stop the us vs. them mentality
and realize we need to be concentrating on who's doing the flipping.
Thanks!
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 08:42 PM by jd140
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Yea I will address your post.
Its making excuses for the White House.
I find it very difficult to believe Gibbs said what he did out of concern that people won't take Rush seriously. Gibbs and the rest of the White
House don't want people to take Rush seriously, that is why they poke fun at him and discredit him any chance they get.
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 08:42 PM by HimWhoHathAnEar
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I would say that our mistake would have been not taking people seriously enough when they questioned the (still ongoing) War against no one in
Particular. Maybe if we had, We the People could have found some common ground. As it is, the people who really run the show (rothschilds, et al) are
laughing their arses off, seeing how easily fooled we are. After all, it only took TWO choices to confuse us while they looted the place and are
heading for the door.
We're going to deserve whatever we get. The price for Freedom was Eternal Vigilance. I always thought it odd that people said not to bring up
religion or politics in conversation. I guess the things that really matter aren't to be discussed in a politically correct, uh, I mean 'civilized'
discussion.
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 08:48 PM by XTexan
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I don't see it as a threat.
Rush sits there and screams and yells calling people Nazis, and one of the parties he's calling a Nazi decided to call him out.
What so now he's gonna cry about it?
Rediculous, if he can't take it then he needs to stop dishing it out.
If someone called me a Nazi I'd punch them in the face.
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 08:50 PM by Strictsum
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I don't remember the Bush spokespeople referring to a talk show host and even insinuating threats. Just for things they said on air. I know Bush was
routinely referred to as Hitler. Doesn't mean they didn't, I just don't remember it.
It's more about what this type of thing could lead to that has people up in arms a bit, I believe.
I don't listen Rush that much but I tuned in a couple days ago to see if he was talking about the town halls. I have to admit he made some very valid
points. Many of the same things that are said on here, Rush speaks of now. It was rather surprising actually.
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 08:51 PM by observer
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Gibbs did not threaten Rush, no matter how tight the wad you all get your panties in. And I always thought the first person to thrown the Nazi label
out automatically lost the argument for the simple fact that they have no way to really argue back. At least that is what the Bushies always said of
lefty morons during the Bush years.
Obs out
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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 08:52 PM by WhatTheory
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Originally posted by XTexan
Rush sits there and screams and yells calling people Nazis, and one of the parties he's calling a Nazi decided to call him out.
Wow, you just don't get it.
Umm....that's because Rush is a citizen and NOT the government. Jeesh!  He has a right to say that.
The Ovomit administration is the government and cannot silence free speech by threatening a citizen. Remember the Constitution. Good grief!
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