Originally posted by Rams59lb
reply to post by fraterormus
Both GOP and DNC are in the pockets of the Big Pharma and Insurance Companies! It's all again calling Healthcare reform when it is all a distraction period. It's not reform, it's rebuilding it all together. Both parties suck, we do need real reform but neither party will do anything to fix it.
PG 22 MANDATES the Government will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
(2) REPORTS.—Not later than 18 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Commissioner shall submit to Congress and the applicable agencies a report on the study conducted under paragraph (1). Such report shall include any recommendations the Commissioner deems appropriate to ensure that the law does not provide incentives for small and mid-size employers to self-insure or create adverse selection in the risk pools of large group insurers and self-insured employers
PG 30 Line 123 THERE WILL BE A Government COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.
The recent attacks by Republican leaders and their ideological fellow-travelers on the effort to reform the health-care system have been so misleading, so disingenuous, that they could only spring from a cynical effort to gain partisan political advantage. By poisoning the political well, they've given up any pretense of being the loyal opposition. They've become political terrorists, willing to say or do anything to prevent the country from reaching a consensus on one of its most serious domestic problems.(emphasis mine)
There are lots of valid criticisms that can be made against the health reform plans moving through Congress -- I've made a few myself. But there is no credible way to look at what has been proposed by the president or any congressional committee and conclude that these will result in a government takeover of the health-care system. That is a flat-out lie whose only purpose is to scare the public and stop political conversation.
Under any plan likely to emerge from Congress, the vast majority of Americans who are not old or poor will continue to buy health insurance from private companies, continue to get their health care from doctors in private practice and continue to be treated at privately owned hospitals.
Originally posted by schrodingers dog
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh
As you know the United States is the only developed nation in the world without a healthcare system.
It is not a matter of political ideology it is a simple matter of human priorities.
Not to mention how fast a "personal responsibility" libertarian would run for assistance if he or his loved ones got gravely ill without insurance.
And no thanks, but this American citizen does not wish to move to Cuba or anywhere else.
Doing the right thing right here will be just fine.
Originally posted by schrodingers dog
A worthwhile read:
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Republicans Propagating Falsehoods in Attacks on Health-Care Reform
Form Physchic Intuitive: www.youtube.com...
It is suggested here that Obama will attempt to represent the everyday American instead of just filling the pockets of corporate executives and befriending the special interest groups that have overrun Washington.
...it is his destiny ...to be... the sacrificial lamb. Disturbingly, this is suggesting that Obama will not live through his first term, and is a prediction of sorts. However... some predictions made in DTM's have come true whilst others have not.
www.nchc.org...
Who are Who are the uninsured?
Nearly 46 million Americans, or 18 percent of the population under the age of 65, were without health insurance in 2007, the latest government data available.
The number of uninsured rose 2.2 million between 2005 and 2006 (GWB President) and has increased by almost 8 million people since 2000
The large majority of the uninsured (80 percent) are native or naturalized citizens.
The increase in the number of uninsured in 2006 was focused among working age adults.
The percentage of working adults (18 to 64) who had no health coverage climbed from 19.7 percent in 2005 to 20.2 percent in 2006.1 Nearly 1.3 million full-time workers lost their health insurance in 2006. (Bush)
Nearly 90 million people – about one-third of the population below the age of 65 spent a portion of either 2006 or 2007 without health coverage.
Over 8 in 10 uninsured people come from working families – almost 70 percent from families with one or more full-time workers and 11 percent from families with part-time workers.
The percentage of people (workers and dependents) with employment-based health insurance has dropped from 70 percent in 1987 to 62 percent in 2007. This is the lowest level of employment-based insurance coverage in more than a decade.
In 2005, nearly 15 percent of employees had no employer-sponsored health coverage available to them, either through their own job or through a family member.
In 2007, 37 million workers were uninsured because not all businesses offer health benefits, not all workers qualify for coverage and many employees cannot afford their share of the health insurance premium even when coverage is at their fingertips.
The number of uninsured children in 2007 was 8.1 million – or 10.7 percent of all children in the U.S.
Young adults (18-to-24 years old) remained the least likely of any age group to have health insurance in 2007 – 28.1 percent of this group did not have health insurance.
The percentage and the number of uninsured Hispanics increased to 32.1 percent and 15 million in 2007.
Nearly 40 percent of the uninsured population reside in households that earn $50,000 or more.1 A growing number of middle-income families cannot afford health insurance payments even when coverage is offered by their employers.
Why is the number of uninsured people increasing?
Millions of workers don’t have the opportunity to get health coverage. A third of firms in the U.S. did not offer coverage in 2007.
Nearly two-fifths (38 percent) of all workers are employed in smaller businesses, where less than two-thirds of firms now offer health benefits to their employees.7 It is estimated that 266,000 companies dropped their health coverage between 2000-2005 and 90 percent of those firms have less than 25 employees.
Rapidly rising health insurance premiums are the main reason cited by all small firms for not offering coverage. Health insurance premiums are rising at extraordinary rates. The average annual increase in inflation has been 2.5 percent while health insurance premiums for small firms have escalated an average of 12 percent annually.
Even if employees are offered coverage on the job, they can’t always afford their portion of the premium. Employee spending for health insurance coverage (employee’s share of family coverage) has increased 120 percent between 2000 and 2006.
Losing a job, or quitting voluntarily, can mean losing affordable coverage – not only for the worker but also for their entire family. Only seven (7) percent of the unemployed can afford to pay for COBRA health insurance – the continuation of group coverage offered by their former employers. Premiums for this coverage average almost $700 a month for family coverage and $250 for individual coverage, a very high price given the average $1,100 monthly unemployment check.
Coverage is unstable during life’s transitions. A person’s link to employer-sponsored coverage can also be cut by a change from full-time to part-time work, or self-employment, retirement or divorce.
The USA already has "national healthcare," we've had it for decades: Can you say MediCare and Medicaid?
on your post - no star for you.
