Originally posted by Animal
Hardly. Perhaps you did not read my post.
Nope I read your post, alright.
What I presented is evidence of the systematic rise of an extremist course of action that is debilitating political process.
Please point out HOW exactly are people expressing themselves without the use of violence that is DEBILITATING the political process
exactly. HAVE people stormed into congress and burned it down like the Reichstag? I think people expressing themselves without VIOLENCE is hardly
DEBILITATING anything, much less the political process.
I did, with out a doubt, label SOME of the right in this post but defiantly not all. I am simply pointing out the rise of an extremist movement on
the right that is contributing only discord and which is doing NOTHING for political process.
Again what exactly are you referring to that is being inhibited? You mean people protesting, showing up at town hall or meetings calling
their congressman, and displaying their disgust with what is being done with their tax dollars....is inhibiting what?
The only thing I see remotely inhibited is Obama's policies, by these outcries, and if this IS WHAT YOU FIND DISTURBING or unconscionable, then the
problem you have then is not with the right wingers, but with democracy and freedom of speech.
I am actually trying to create a debate, why not participate? Personal attacks dont help BTW.
Debate? What are you debating? I've summarized you ENTIRE POST. What's there to debate? You are not outlining issues here, you are making a
STATEMENT ON HOW YOU SEE THINGS.
And how have I personally attacked you? Do you know what a blowhard
is. Your post reeks of
generalizations, and self aggrandizement, on the fact that you disregard the entire group/movement that has been building, SINCE THE BUSH
administration and being CONTINUED by the current administration.
Curious what do you think my fallacious arguments are?
Quite right. That's because you are not making any. Rather you are painting
broad normative generalizations, while at the same time claiming that the FEW nutters that espouse REAL BIGOTRY (of which by the way the left also
has) negates the underlying issues, for which they are trying to bring to light.
What do you THINK about them and can you disprove them in any way?
Look, instead of focusing your efforts on writing a post which says basically:
Right wing groups, (tea parties, people who fly Gadsden flags, obama care protesters) are racists and inhibiting the political process by slowing down
the OBAMA agenda, which I (Animal) LIKE and approve of.
You should focus on really pointing out RACISTS ARGUMENTS WHEN THEY DO occur here on ATS and point them out as fallacious, moronic and of course
should be discredited.
Instead, you turn right around and paint entire groups as racists. Here you are playing into and NOW BEING A PART OF what your entire POST is all
Which ad hominem attacks?
Claiming that groups who dislike government growth, such as the ones involved in tea parties or recent protests of Obama care are
crypto-racists. Don't you think this might be...might be...a BIG LEAP HERE?
Some clearly are.
I'll say!!!! The left is notorious for having deep racism...as well. What do you think unions thugs have say about undocumented construction
workers, or those pesky Chinese "TAKING er" JOBS!!
Racism is clearly a two way street, here. You are not debating issues, rather by claiming the right is full of bigots, it SHOULD therefore negate any
legitimate gripe OR discord being currently displayed which those groups of people feel the encroaching growth of government is doing.
[edit on 7-8-2009 by Gateway]