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posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
reply to post by Sol12
 

No, but the butterfly stage is not the birth, it's the beginning of the end for that animal.



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A child 'dies' from being a 'parasite' feeding on the 'host',
in order to get born?

From then on, it has to start breathing to get oxygen?

It has to start eating, not to 'die'?

A true set back it seems?

Dissect any symbol, and it will soon appear rather flawed?

Words/symbols only express meaning.

A map is not the territory.



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posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 01:13 PM
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reply to post by Sol12
 

Now you are getting too philosophical for my tastes.


But who cares, this is (was) just a crop drawing that does not even exists any more, so I guess its butterfly phase has also ended.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 01:18 PM
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Just joined.
My one and only question on crop circles is WTF ?
If they were alien, why not just print your message in clear local language, instead of stupid riddles ? Much easier and everyone knows what you're saying.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
reply to post by Sol12
 

Now you are getting too philosophical for my tastes.


But who cares, this is (was) just a crop drawing that does not even exists any more, so I guess its butterfly phase has also ended.


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There is nothing philosophical in the first part of what I wrote?

All crop circles appear only briefly in the fields,
like the butterflies.



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posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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A day in the life
of some butterflies..

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posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 06:17 PM
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I've made another video,
same theme, different music.

Secrets & Mysteries of Planetary Dreamers. ~ 2 ~

media.abovetopsecret.com...

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www.youtube.com...

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posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by ukmadmax
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My one and only question on crop circles is WTF ?
If they were alien, why not just print your message in clear local language, instead of stupid riddles ? Much easier and everyone knows what you're saying.


Holy cow! Are you crazy, ridiculing what some hold dear and holy to their hearts?


You can't use rationality in these discourses. They come after you!



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 11:11 AM
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Ed.

Being rational is one thing.

Ridiculing what some hold dear to their hearts
is quite another thing?

It is often the 'rational types' who choose to get offended
because of what others choose to 'believe'?

I don't know if you are an experienced traveler?

If so, you'll probably know there is hardly any point
telling anyone at home about all the things you've seen?

Returning home is the big anti-climax to the odyssey.

You'll find people get bored very soon to hear your story?

Even if you have photographs/scars to show,
these are mere still shots and
don't tell anyone anything about your actual experience?

The fact that someone has not gone through a certain
rational experience does not mean that others who have
gone through it are 'mere believers'?

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Concerning the subject of this thread:

There truly does NOT exist (yet..?) any evidence/proof that
this Butterfly is made by Earth Humans in only "6 hours"?

When reading this thread, you'll have to agree that
I have been approaching the xld-sign claims in a rather
rational manner?

I have gathered some actual facts and details
and I've presented them here on the thread.

I'm not the one here, asking anyone to believe??

xld-sign wants you/us to "believe".

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You wrote two sentences expressing something important.

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There are two paths leading to knowledge.

- The Heart.

- The Mind.

The Mind can't experience without the Heart.

The Heart can't express without the Mind.

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Who is in charge then, of the Heart/Mind?

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posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 09:21 PM
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Update: Not a word yet of 'Doug & Dave'.

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I'm adding two Butterfly crop circle videos
which were added to u-tube recently.

(The first video has the date wrong, 8th instead of 7th.)

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posted on Oct, 23 2009 @ 07:29 PM
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I've made another video:

"Secrets and Mysteries of a Butterfly".

The music:

'Le Printemps' by Natacha Atlas.

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www.youtube.com...

media.abovetopsecret.com...

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posted on Oct, 23 2009 @ 08:04 PM
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Ascension and advancement. Its a wonderful theme.



posted on Jan, 2 2010 @ 12:15 PM
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'xld-sign' may have a 'January surprise'.

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A 5/6 minute item will be shown on Dutch national TV
supposedly providing (a glimpse of) the 'making of' the Butterfly CC.

I've recently found out by talking to
a representative of a TV station named "BNN".

This has been an old rumor which
had never been confirmed in spite
of several people investigating it.

The representative was not willing
to provide any additional information,
besides stating, the broadcast would be in January,
neither anyone else was available to talk to.

So far, not any promotion/publicity
has been made about the broadcast of this item.

I've been waiting to post about this until there
would be some additional confirmation available.

Only some days ago I found an entrance
in the program schedule of BNN.

It briefly announces, among other items in this show,
one of the presenters is "going to make some crop circles".

www.bnn.nl...

It doesn't mention the Butterfly CC nor any other details.

The item will be broadcast during a sensationalist
trivial evening entertainment show this Sunday.

The show is called "try before you die".

About BNN:

BNN is known for trivial controversial programs
and heavy 'social engineering'
mainly targeting youth, with a lot of sex, drugs
and dubious/tasteless nonsense.

They are particularly known for staging a hoax
where a terminally ill lady was going
to donate her organs to the winner
of a live reality show/contest.

This particular national TV station (BNN) offers
an interesting gift to their new subscribers/members.

Euro 12,50 year membership, includes a pink..

Scroll down, view left:

www.bnn.nl...

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About the show "try before you die":

Typically, one of the eight presenters,
in turn, performs some trivial challenge.

"Something they always dreamed of doing,
or what gives them cold chills".

The show is not a live broadcast,
there are 8 episodes (40min) and these
are being pre-recorded during the year
as different types of challenges are involved.

Example: One of the female presenters gets a twin-sister,
i.e. they have a 'full-featured' latex copy of her made.

www.bnn.nl...

They also have 'surprise' challenges
for each presenter.

Example from previous show: One of the presenters has to perform
a 10-second french-kiss with a 73 year old guy who
first is shown to clean his artificial teeth.

No kidding.

www.bnn.nl...

And so on..

Dutch national TV, sorry folks.

In fact,

It happens to be the 'french-kiss' girl/presenter
who is "going to make some crop circles".

Peculiar fact is that this young lady, Geraldine,
is the recent winner of a contest to becoming a new
presenter for the BNN TV station.

This contest/show lasted 8 weeks, the final episode,
which she won, was broadcast on the 23rd of july 2009.

Link: "Final BNN Star Search" - 23 juli 2009.

sterretjegezocht.bnn.nl...

She became "The new BNN presenter".

Two weeks later, the 7th of August,
the appearance of the Butterfly was announced
during a BNN live radio-show.

It turns out that indeed prize-winner Geraldine,
is posing in the xld-sign photo-op/group-shot,
only two weeks after she won the contest.



Interesting career start, to say the least.

The BNN radio host, as well as photographer Joop van Houdt,
initially made it clear during this live radio-show
nobody knew who created the Butterfly CC.

BNN has never publicly stated to be involved.

In the days and weeks following, several contradicting
stories were launched and retracted by xld-sign, also
several unconfirmed messages/images were posted
by dubious/unknown sources at several boards.

Much of this has been discussed on this thread.

After almost 5 months, the xld-sign website
still contains merely 1 actual image of the Butterfly CC,
a date and a note it was allegedly made by 60 people.

No additional facts/details, no links to external sites.

www.xld-sign.com...

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Are we finally going to see substantial evidence/proof
to the xld-sign claim of having created the Butterfly CC?

xld-sign/BNN have had 10 days,
from announcement at radio-show on the 7th of August
till harvest on the 17th of August,
to fabricate some footage, as I've pointed out sometime ago?

Case closed?

Or..

More ambiguity?

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'Stay tuned'.

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posted on Jan, 2 2010 @ 12:39 PM
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Thanks for the great update!


It looks like the pieces of the puzzle are getting in the right places. Let's see if we finally get an answer for this case.



posted on Jan, 2 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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reply to post by ArMaP
 


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You're welcome Armap!


Let's wait and see.


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posted on Jan, 2 2010 @ 03:19 PM
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Here's the same field at a different time, with a wider shot.
i10.photobucket.com...



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 04:05 PM
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reply to post by Sol12
 


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'stay tuned'..

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The show that was scheduled for tonight,
as announced at the "try before you die" website,
has not been broadcast.

As far as I know, only 2 more episodes
are scheduled for this 'season'.

So either one of the next two Sundays,
we may get to see how Geraldine
is "going to make some crop circles".




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[edit on 3-1-2010 by Sol12]



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 09:36 PM
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Ok this sounds crazy I know, but do we know for sure that this is not capable by let's say, a lazer on a satellite and a awesome comp program?



posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 12:47 AM
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'stay tuned'..

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Here is the awaited video.

And a link to a separate thread
where I've posted the video:

Dutch Butterfly Crop Circle Mystery 2010: New Footage.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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It was broadcast on Dutch national TV
by the "BNN" channel, on Sunday the 10th of January 2010.

In the video below I've added
the complete item/footage
as it was broadcast during the show.

The length of the "crop circle item"
is about 6 minutes.

They never mention any date
to when this "making of" allegedly took place?

They aren't specific about the location?

They do not even mention "xld-sign"?

In stead of 60 people,
now, they mention 100 people?

Watch the video and
see for yourself:




media.abovetopsecret.com...



(click to open player in new window)


The original video can be viewed
at the BNN website:

www.bnn.nl...


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posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 03:11 PM
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reply to post by Sol12
 

Thanks for the update.


I suppose they did not thought about convincing people that don't believe in man-made crop circles when they made that video, it doesn't explain a thing and it's only good for TV audiences.



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 09:40 AM
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hi to everybody.
In 2003 I have visited English crop circles , I have seen around 100 crop circles in the Wiltshire...... many of these crop circles were fakes , but some were authentic.
To Stonehenge in a night , has appeared a crop circles of 240 metres , called Stonehenge ' crop circle , or called the bow......
I was to Stonehenge that evening , and in the field there was no anything of nothing.
Probably this is the greatest circle ,or one of the greatest.......
About the Da Vinci ' circle I think that it is fake...... yes,it is true, it is a very beautiful circle , but ... I think that it is false, because geometrically it seems me dirty........ and also because this circle doesn't show any knowledge of the sacred geometry.......spiritually it seems me a very superficial and meaningless circle.





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