Union Thugs Beat Patriot at Obamacare Town Hall in St. Louis!

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posted on Aug, 9 2009 @ 11:10 AM
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Uh yeah... we're reviewing it right now in another thread.

Are you paying attention?





posted on Aug, 9 2009 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by HunkaHunka
 


Right here:thedanashow.wordpress.com...

BREAKING: Carnahan staffer admits to causing trouble?
Same lady, shown with her hands behind her back in handcuffs.


thedanashow.files.wordpress.com...

Woman is identified as Javonne Spitz of O’Fallon.
Around the :48 mark (I was right here when this video was shot, FYI) Spitz refers to Kenneth Gladney as “black man.”




Oh wait.. so this was YOUR personal town hall at your own TOWN? How many of these have you been to?



posted on Aug, 9 2009 @ 11:15 AM
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Can someone explain to me why town meetings are being targeted for a federal issue?

I don't see how Mayor Simpleton in Bumblef***, Illinois, is going to be able to affect change at the federal level when all he's worried about is the zoning rights for the new Fosters Freeze.

Any patriots out there wish to explain the town meeting thing to me?

Wouldn't it be more productive to take your pitchforks over to Washington, D.C.?



posted on Aug, 9 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by Violet Sky
Can someone explain to me why town meetings are being targeted for a federal issue?
Any patriots out there wish to explain the town meeting thing to me?

Wouldn't it be more productive to take your pitchforks over to Washington, D.C.?


These "town meetings" are being held by Federal Senators and Congresscritters, not local officials.

This link should give a pretty good idea of who's doing the organizing.
www.lookingattheleft.com...



posted on Aug, 9 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by Violet Sky
Can someone explain to me why town meetings are being targeted for a federal issue?

I don't see how Mayor Simpleton in Bumblef***, Illinois, is going to be able to affect change at the federal level when all he's worried about is the zoning rights for the new Fosters Freeze.

Any patriots out there wish to explain the town meeting thing to me?

Wouldn't it be more productive to take your pitchforks over to Washington, D.C.?


The town hall used to be a forum for the politicians to hear the voters concerns and go back to washington and legislate for the voters.

The hope and change, in the context of these events, has lately been the politicians telling the town hall audience their opinion of what the legislation should be.

The voters demand to be heard and are upset, rightly so!



posted on Aug, 9 2009 @ 11:30 AM
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Well that about says it all,



posted on Aug, 9 2009 @ 11:48 AM
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And what does it say?

I'm confused as to your interpretation.



posted on Aug, 9 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


And what does it say?

I'm confused as to your interpretation.


Basically, the Senator accused the right wing extremism of hiring organisers to set up disruptions at his town hall meeting.

The facts are, this lady was arrested for assaulting or disrupting, depending on your perspective, she is also his employee.

So you tell me, who is hiring who?



posted on Aug, 9 2009 @ 01:03 PM
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Published on August 08, 2009, an eyewitness account with video of the Carnahan town hall meeting.

Eyewitness Report and Video: Russ Carnahan town hall


This is an eyewitness account of my trip to an event Russ Carnahan (D-MO) hosted to discuss long term care issues for seniors. While the event was not billed as a town hall for health care reform it essentially turned into a forum for both sides to express views on reform.
examiner




posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
SEIU has been linked to ACORN and is involved with the authorship of the Health Care Plan.

Ironically these thugs were using racial slurs against this Black Man who was assaulted. The victim was just a vendor doing a job and had no part in the politics.

What happened here is a group of Black's beat up another Black because they thought he was a Conservative. Forget freedom of speech with this bunch.

Both ACORN and SEIU are deep under the covers in bed with Obama. They will both be flooded with money because of this relationship. ACORN is nothing but an organized crime mob and apparently SEIU is heading that way.

What will happen is what always happens. SEIU will say they had nothing to do with it and blame it all on the individuals even though they likely worked them up into a lather so they would do just what they did.

When are the good people in the Democratic Party going to wake the hell up. The Republicans have accepted, for the most part, how bad Bush was. I don't think this will happen with the Far Left.

I predict many Democrats will turn Independent and realize that is where the intelligent people have been all along.

Obama damn well better condemn what SEIU did in no uncertain terms, or he is the phony I think he has always been. They were even let into special doors and instructed and given special treatment. Imagine that at a meeting open to the public.


I'm physically sickened by what is going on. Begich here in Alaska is having a meeting with some of his old cronnies in Anchorage and then skipping state to hide. He won't even have a town meeting or answer any questions not coming from his backers. His career is over in Alaska. He knows it. A one termer thank god. Now he will do all the damage he can while he can.


Obama loves crime groups helping him out.

Bump.



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 12:00 PM
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Yes...and is there anything more unamerican than hiring Union thugs to beat peaceful voices of resistance to tyranny?

Pelosi recently said

These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views -- but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades.
politics.theatlantic.com...

What is it called when some one is hired and paid to beat up a targeted person who has an opposing voice in order to instill fear in a large percent of the population?

It is first...UNAmerican!




[edit on 10-8-2009 by burntheships]



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 12:05 PM
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oops

[edit on 123131p://bMonday2009 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 12:20 PM
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This is not left and right, this is about selective health care and that some ppl will be more equal than others.


Actually Obamacare is brilliant. Social Security is close to bankrupt and so is medicare. The statistics on aging is this



America is growing older. We knew that. But earlier this year, the U.S. Census Bureau quantified how much older and how fast it will happen.

The numbers paint a picture of a nation on the brink of remarkable change. Today, about 13 percent of Americans are over age 65.

By 2030, more than 20 percent of Americans will be in that group. By 2050, about 89 million Americans will be over age 65, more than double the number today.


Up till now congress has looked at Social security as a slush fund for buying votes, so instead of the money being invested for the future retirees it has been spent. Now it is time to pay up and the money is not there.



Is it any wonder Obamacare has these clauses?





SEC. 123. HEALTH BENEFITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 12 (a) ESTABLISHMENT.— 13 (1) IN GENERAL.—There is established a private-public advisory committee which shall be a panel of medical and other experts to be known as the Health Benefits Advisory Committee to recommend covered benefits and essential, enhanced, and premium plans.

(b) DUTIES.—
(1) RECOMMENDATIONS ON BENEFIT STANDARDS.—The Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall recommend to the Secretary of Health and Human Services (in this subtitle referred to as the ‘‘Secretary’’) benefit standards (as defined in paragraph (4)), and periodic updates to such standards. In developing such recommendations, the Committee shall take into account innovation in health care and consider how such standards could reduce health disparities.

(4) BENEFIT STANDARDS DEFINED.—In this subtitle, the term ‘‘benefit standards’’ means standards respecting—
(A) the essential benefits package described in section 122, including categories of covered treatments, items and services within benefit classes, and cost-sharing; and
(B) the cost-sharing levels for enhanced plans and premium plans (as provided under section 203(c)) consistent with paragraph (5).





Advance Care Planning Consultation (hhh)(1) Subject to paragraphs (3) and (4), the term ‘advance care planning consultation’ means a consultation between the individual and a practitioner described in paragraph (2) regarding advance care planning, if, subject to paragraph (3), the individual involved has not had such a consultation within the last 5 years.




‘‘(B) The level of treatment indicated under subparagraph (A)(ii) may range from an indication for full treatment to an indication to limit some or all or specified interventions. Such indicated levels of treatment may in 8clude indications respecting, among other items— 9 ‘‘(i) the intensity of medical intervention if the 10 patient is pulse less, apneic, or has serious cardiac 11 or pulmonary problems; 12 ‘‘(ii) the individual’s desire regarding transfer 13 to a hospital or remaining at the current care set 14ting; 15 ‘‘(iii) the use of antibiotics; and 16 ‘‘(iv) the use of artificially administered nutri 17tion and hydration.’’.

The mandatory end of life planning consultation is discussed in more detail here ATS

Excatly what type of pressure will be brought to bare on the elderly is not spelled out but it is obvious that end of life care will be rationed. So it is no wonder older Americans are upset.



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 02:28 PM
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Obamacare will be mismanaged just as social security and every government benefit program is. The problem with social sercurity is not solely due to misallocation of funds, but also because of the multitude of people that are allowed to collect SS benefits that they are not entiled to.

A program that will forcibly enroll me in a government health insurance program that is funded by tax payers, because i now have no insurance, is not a brilliant program.

It's not only older Americans that are upset about this proposed healthcare reform, there are plenty of young and middleaged people that are upset by it also.



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 03:15 PM
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Well said. On the money...show us one thing...one goverment agency that is managing any program with efficiency!

 


Another video clip this one actullay shows the staffer of Carnahan being arrested!



Woman is identified as Javonne Spitz of O’Fallon.







[edit on 10-8-2009 by burntheships]



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 07:28 PM
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Recent developments:

Father of Man with Cerebral Palsy Ejected From Dingell Obamacare Forum by Police...

and then he was visited in the middle of the night by Union Thugs!
Watch the video here, and read more about it!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.freep.com...



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 10:32 PM
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More recent developments...

White House Blocks Opposition From Staged Obama Town Hall Event...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 01:48 PM
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And what do any of these have to do with the contents of the bill?

I'm trying to better understand the point of your post.



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 01:51 PM
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This thread is titled Union Thugs Beat Patriot at Obamacare Town Hall in St. Louis.

Other incidents have come to light involving Union Thugs!



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 01:54 PM
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Even if that is true... what does it have to do with the content of the health care bill? I'm just trying to find the relevance of this thread to the prospect of healtcare reform since the protesters were protesting that specifically.

How do these events reflect, if they do at all, on the Health Care Bill currently in congress?

[edit on 11-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]





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