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Union Thugs Beat Patriot at Obamacare Town Hall in St. Louis!

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posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 01:35 AM
reply to post by dooper

They sure are pushing it friend Dooper that's for sure.

Using Union Thugs to strong arm citizens at a town hall meeting?

Wow! This from the guy who promised change, one thing if for sure he's a lot more transparent than he means to be...

Can you say Nazi?

This guy really thinks he is going to waltz into the White House and run America like a group of kids cutting in line at the cafeteria daring someone to do something about it?

You can take the boy out of the ghetto but you sure can't take the ghetto out of the boy!

This guy really needs to get a clue quick.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 01:42 AM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

This guy lives in a fantasy world that even Michael Jackson would have found hard to believe.

Proto, he's breaking the first rule of buhlschitting. Never start believing your own buhlschitt. I think that's Mongolian for . . . hola.

He honestly feels that by being elected President, he has a mandate to make all his facist dreams come true.

Nancy Pelosi is a typical Southern California, San Francisco - hey. If you get elected by that bunch, you know you're about a half bubble off plumb.

Somebody is going to make a mistake in judgment.

I mean besides our politicians.

[edit on 8-8-2009 by dooper]

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 02:33 AM
reply to post by dooper

Well, Dooper it's true they are playing with fire and these are desperate times for a lot of people.

Lets look back a couple months ago to the Senior Citizen that shot up the Holocaust Museum.

A couple months before that a Senior Citizen here in Miami shot and killed a popular and well known resturauntur over basically what was a neighbor dispute, but the senior's real motive was he had no one left in life to take care of him and could no longer really take care of himself. He shot the man he killed in cold blood and without remorse and waited patiently with his front door open, gun in hand and quietly handed it over to the Police when they arrived on the scene.

A lot of these seniors have lost their life savings or huge portions of them in all these stock market swindles.

A lof of them have seen the taxes on their homes skyrocket on them as values went way up and their fixed incomes stay the same.

Now because of the not so transparent way the government does business they are worried about possibly loosing their health care too.

Now here they are they have the time to get involved, they are retired, they know American values, they have lived them for 60, 70, 80 years.

They want to have their voices heard but now have to consider wow, maybe some Union Thugh 1/3 my age is going to throw down on me if I go there and speak out...I better take my gun, darn where did I leave the get the picture I am sure.

Nervous, scared, little left to live for, little left to loose, confronted outside of their home in a foriegn environment and it really won't be long until one of them goes bang, bang, bang and down she goes.

The unspoken reality is that you and I might see a harmless little old man, but to a large portion of the populace that now imagines its in power, they see some rabid old KKK guy, he's bad, he's had it coming, and heaven forbid they do some digging and find out once upon a time he was a KKK guy or simply claim once upon a time he was a KKK guy.

Now you really will have all Hell breaking loose.

I think McVeigh was a patsy Dooper, I don't think you are going to see guys like that come out of the woodwork, I do think at some point you will see real battle lines being drawn on the streets as protest get more heated and Obama gets down to having little support but his core 'black' constituency to defend his autocratic rules and policy. At that point it will end up being all about race, because they will make it all about race and the poorer and the more frustrated people are at the time because of the economy the uglier the venting of resentments and annomisities is going to be.

It's a heck of a mess Dooper, and there isn't going to be a clean solution to it. The people really aren't happy, and you really aren't going to be able to get rid of Obama legally or otherwise without causing a real racial war in America, and when it degrades to a certain point, he really isn't going to want to relinquish the White House because if he ends up having to play the race card to the nations detriment it will be a cold day in hell before another black ever has a chance to get elected because of it.

The Administration is really trying to introduce a whole new set of rules, and employ a whole new set of tactics that might go over well in the rough and tumble wards of Chicago but are going to really infuriate main stream America.

That really was the plan from the get go, the whole reason they financed and groomed the guy, they want America at war with itself.

The poor have always been poor, government healthcare to them is like a gift from the G-ds, and the poor are going to be besides themselves if they don't get it, now that it's been promised to them, and now that a whole group of people has been painted as the ones who denied it to them.

The poor don't care about the economy, they are poor whether the economy is good or the economy is bad, the poor care only about what Government will do for them, so this is a big issue, a really big issue, and they have prepped the ground going into it with the Birth Certificate thing and the Gates/Cowley thing, and putting it all into play during the hottest deadest month of summer where patience is already short for people and tempers flare the quickest in the best of times.

This is a bad situation Dooper. This month could end up being one we never forget, keep your powder dry and your head low buddy!

Remember though to ask questions first before shooting, leaded or unleaded?

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 03:38 AM
reply to post by burntheships

meh, this isnt a big deal.
You can call it what you want but in reality, this was just two people with different ideas in a fight. Sure, one guy may have instigated it more than the other, but neither of them are employed by the govt, just two regular guys.
It would be the same as two guys in a bar fight during the elections saying obama is better than mccain and vise versa.
my 2 cents, make of it what you want.
You let me know when the cops start attacking the protesters and I'll join in discussion.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 03:50 AM
So, can someone tell me why the video, the evidence of this claim... only starts after the fight had ended?

You people don't really think that some guy just out of the blue, randomly attacked another guy for handing out flags, do you?

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 03:56 AM
When there is a new civil war,

i'm not quite sure what side i'd be on. but my god, it's going to be one hell of a war.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 05:28 AM
reply to post by dooper

I'm telling you now, there's going to be a killing if these union thugs don't back off.

I think you are right in this assumption. SEIU now says that they recieved a death threat. I have no idea if the threat is real, or just something that they did to try and take the heat off themselves, but the article has an audio of the "threat".

Now, SEIU reports that they've received a violent threat on a voicemail from someone claiming to be from Oregon. Listen to the voicemail:

And then there's this....

Meanwhile, another member of the right-wing mob is actively calling on the teabaggers to carry concealed weapons and to attack SEIU members:

It seems as if somebody is trying to light a fire that will quickly turn into an inferno that will be nearly impossible to put out once it gets going.

reply to post by Blaine91555

I feel like I'm going to live the horror's of the sixties all over again before I die.

Funny just the other week i was telling my son that i was seeing things happening now that were happening in the 60's. I was born in 61' so i was young, but i remember quite well all the turmoil and violence. I think it's part of somebody's agenda to bring us right back to it. Problem is there are many that are not old enough to have seen how bad things got and how easy it would be for that to happen again.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 05:32 AM
St. Louis is and has for a long time been a very corrupt city. The unions really are used for thug work for the various mobs including the Italians, Serbs, and more recently the Bosnian mob. The union thug leaders are directed by various politicians, whom to my knowledge are mostly if not all part of the democratic party. Obama's town, Chicago is St. Louis' big brother, Same kind of corruption just on a larger scale. So it's no shocker to see the unions doing this.

I really can't give you a source for this it's just first hand knowledge.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 05:33 AM
sounds like america has the same kinda problem as the uk.
in the uk our problem is known as uaf (untite against fascism) wich is very closley linked to search light, these very extreme violent people do turn up in many polital rallys/marches & also attack individuals with hammers & dont have a problem with putting people in hospitol. at marches they will often try to cause trouble wich then gives the police reason to break up the march & stop rallys.
& search light & uaf are both sponcered by government mp`s from conservative/labour/libdems
what this means is that all three main uk partys collectivly pay for a rent a mob to bully/hospitolise/intimidate/fight any one why disagrees with government policy. (one government nwo)

this thread made me think of uaf/search light strait away, so is their an american rent a mob working for both democrats & republicans ?
or maybe its some thiko obamarites being divided & ruled ?
watch out for government payed thugs & im not just talking about the police.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 05:38 AM
posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Then the National Gaurd steps in.

Then it will get ugly.

funny you should say that,

Internment/Resettlement (I/R) Specialists in the Army are primarily responsible for day-to-day operations in a military confinement/correctional facility or detention/internment facility. I/R Specialists provide rehabilitative, health, welfare, and security to U.S. military prisoners within a confinement or correctional facility; conduct inspections; prepare written reports; and coordinate activities of prisoners/internees and staff personnel.

Some of your duties as an Internment/Resettlement Specialist may include:

Assist with the supervision and management of confinement and detention operations
Provide external security to confinement/corrections facilities or detention/internment facilities
Provide counseling and guidance to individual prisoners within a rehabilitative program
Prepare or review reports and records of prisoners/internees and programs

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 05:43 AM
Union patriots Beat right wing thug at Obamacare Town Hall in St. Louis!

It goes both ways...what makes you think those union members are any less patriotic just because they disagree with you?

More idiotic crap from the right to make themselves look like the only true Americans and patriots.

A better and more accurate headline would read:

Union members and health care opponents clash in St. Louis town hall.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 06:12 AM
reply to post by Stormdancer777

I always thought the union and the mob were connected.

They definately are. My father organized a Union at his place of work. Union thugs came in beat the $h!# out of Dad and forced him to move out of state so they could take it over. That was in 1952 and they haven't changed any since. It is about money and power.

A friend belonged to a Union. There was trouble at the place he worked, a sudden severe cut in wages for no apparent reason. The national organization made no effort to help the local when they asked for help. The company used the protest as an excuse to shut the plant and move to a new nonunion facility. The same thing happen at my plant. The company built a new plant shut down the old and refused to transfer anyone including management. We were the biggest money maker so the accountants deducted ALL the sales expense and ALL the R&D expense from the sales revenue at our plant. The accountants did this, instead of spreading the cost among six plants, and showed we were the worst preforming plant. Again the national Union was a no show.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 06:49 AM
Your right, wasn't it clinton her self that said to the effect that it's our duty to protest if our countrys doing something we don't agree with. It's funny, it was perfectly fine to protest President Bush, call him hitler, ect, but now if you disagree with BO in any way, your labeled a racist, ect. Now we have the obama union thugs attacking people that dare disagree with what's going on. Is this the start of the obama brown shirts? What about Bo's email snitch line?

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posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 06:57 AM

Originally posted by Chance321
Your right, wasn't it clinton her self that said to the effect that it's our duty to protest if our countrys doing something we don't agree with.

The quote is "It is a sin to be silent when your duty is to protest." and it was Abraham Lincoln who said that.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 07:10 AM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

They should know that too, and one really has to ask, what the heck has them so scared that they are prepared to risk it all by over reaching in this fashion at this time. They aren't stupid, something big has their backs up against the wall and finding out really what that is, is what will win this fight and send them packing back to their storied little enclaves for a few more generations.

The answer is twofold. First they are getting old and want to see a world government in THEIR LIFETIME. To name a few.
Maurice Strong — Date of Birth: April 29, 1929
David Rockefeller — Date of Birth: June 12, 1915
Henry Kissinger — Born, May 27, 1923

Second we have come to a "tipping point" The international Bankers and multinational corporations have wrecked the economies of most nations so they must grab for control NOW or watch the sheeple wake-up and toss them out of power. Toss out the Federal Reserve and similar banking systems, Toss out bloated government, tear apart the vertically and horizontally integrated mega corporations. As countries bankrupt all those "socialist" programs used to lull the masses will get yanked as citizen no longer have the money to fund them

In Sept. 14, 1994 David Rockefeller, speaking at the UN Business Council,.
"This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long - We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

Rockefeller's crisis is upon us and we must wake up and stand against the elite who would enslave us. As he said the window will not be open too long.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 08:07 AM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Well, Dooper it's true they are playing with fire and these are desperate times for a lot of people. Lets look back a couple months ago to the Senior Citizen that shot up the Holocaust Museum.....

You certainly have the seniors pegged correctly. They rather die free than submit to a dictator. They remember Hitler, Lenin and Stalin. they remember this wise quote:

First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me. Martin Niemoeller

One point that you did not mention is paramilitary trained black muslim fanatics. Compared to these guys the Union Thugs look like Sunday school teachers.

Since the September 11, 2001 attacks, the US has been increasingly concerned about its relations with Muslim communities. Domestically, it has reached out to various Islamic organizations in an effort to engage the Muslim-American population in the “war on terrorism” and the fight against Islamic radicals. One partner of the US State Department in this area has been the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), a self-described “umbrella” organization for Muslims in North America. ISNA has been involved in various State Department efforts to reach out to the Islamic world, such as a 2005 conference in Belgium that was intended to help create an international network of Islamic moderates. An important factor in ISNA’s special relationship with the US government is its designation and reputation as a “moderate” group. However, there is a substantial body of evidence that leads to the opposite conclusion. This is troubling from the standpoint of US policy, because if a major partner in the State Department’s relations with Muslim communities is associated with Islamic fundamentalism and radicalism, it would undermine and discredit the anti-extremism efforts of the US government.

ISNA is, in fact, an organization seriously tainted by extremism.

Islamberg was in the news last year. It was established in 1980 by Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani, a Pakistani cleric. When released from the federal prison, former convicts receive not only the customary $10 and a suit of clothes but also a one-way ticket to Islamberg. What took place at Islamberg ?

The answers came from Sheikh Gilani in his recruitment videos: “We give [students] specialized training in guerilla warfare. We are at present establishing training camps. You can easily reach us at Open Quranic offices in upstate New York or in Canada or in South Carolina or in Pakistan.” Similarly, in a handbook, published by the university, Gilani writes that the foremost duty of all students is to wage war against “the oppressors of Muslims.” The students are expected to sign an oath that reads: “I shall always hear and obey, and whenever given the command, I shall readily fight for Allah’s sake.”

So what is happening to Islamberg now?

Islamberg resembles a ghost town..What has happened to this once bustling complex of radical Islamists..

Islamberg contains massive underground bunkers that are interconnected by a network of tunnels. A building contractor, who resides in Sherman, Pennsylvania - - approximately 15 miles from Islamberg, says that he helped to install the bunkers and that the paramilitary training that formerly took place at the firing range and the obstacle courses place now takes place at these subterranean locations.

...The community is engaged in a public relations campaign designed to present Islamberg and other Jamaat ul-Fuqra compounds as peaceful settlements that pose no threat to national security. In keeping with this campaign, Islamberg now proclaims itself to be the “International Headquarters” of the newly created “United Muslim – Christian Forum.”

The most ominous part of the story is this:

Our sources have reported similar disappearances of young Muslim males from compounds and Islamic Centers across the United States and Canada.

There are now paramilitary trained, heavily armed blacks with a fanatical bent somewhere. And despite all protest to the contrary Obama IS Muslim. If had left the faith he would have changed his name as my grandfather did. The name is very significant to Muslims. That is why black Muslims abandon their christian names and take Muslim names.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 08:08 AM

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by dooper

They sure are pushing it friend Dooper that's for sure.

Using Union Thugs to strong arm citizens at a town hall meeting?

Wow! This from the guy who promised change, one thing if for sure he's a lot more transparent than he means to be...

Can you say Nazi?

This guy really thinks he is going to waltz into the White House and run America like a group of kids cutting in line at the cafeteria daring someone to do something about it?

You can take the boy out of the ghetto but you sure can't take the ghetto out of the boy!

This guy really needs to get a clue quick.

The Supreme Court has also recognized that the government may prohibit some speech that may cause a breach of the peace or cause violence

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 08:22 AM
reply to post by grover

Union members and health care opponents clash in St. Louis town hall.

Normally I would agree with you except Obama ASKED them to do this. AND the republicans did the same. It looks like the classic "lets you and he fight" while I steal all the goodies from BOTH of you.

Please open your eyes and SEE the poor smuck in the street or the union thug are BOTH being manipulated. We are past the time when defending the democrats or the republicans was a constructive action. BOTH parties are equally responsible for ruining this country.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 08:55 AM
Haha oh brother! Everyone was scared of that redneck hill billy with the cigarette in his mouth. LOL. I wish I was there. I would have pounded that loser into pulp. If that's the kind of people representing ACORN and SEIU I'm not worried LOL. HAHA. I don't think any of those protesters were under 40 years old. And they all looked to be 50lbs overweight. Ironic. You've got out of shape, cigarette smoking, 40-50 year old people fighting about healthcare reform.

posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 09:10 AM
Leader Nancy Pelosi calling opponents Nazis to violence

I woul really like to her statement means we the people are nazis?? then government thugs beat up people. We have technology we stole form the nazis! sorry, our governemnt does. corporations are greedy and taking oer, governemnt okays cancer causing ingreidints without our consent in our food and water. We eat and do everyday, what the governemnt wants us to does this make US nazis Pelosi?? I beg to pradon, but i think you have the statemtn reversed Mein Furher

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