Originally posted by TheAftermath
reply to post by heliosprime
Well congratulations, you just earned yourself a spot on my ignore list.
I could ask you to prove any of that crap, but it would be an exercise in futility. There is no such thing as logical debate with you people.
Originally posted by TheAftermath
reply to post by heliosprime
Not quite.
I learned a long time ago expecting anything intelligent to flow out of someone who believes in a giant invisible man is an exercise in futility.
There is simply no logic to be found in your types.
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
More clearly, there's the First Amendment to the Bill of Rights. It says that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof: ..."
By singling out" under God," as distinct from eliminating this phrase and going back to the previous version before 1954, the Pledge of Allegiance is a statement affirming a specific religious belief that a Christian God exists, as distinct from other religious beliefs.
The Supreme Court has previously said that no one shall be forced to say the Pledge of Allegiance, but public pressure and ostracism awaits anyone you doesn't. It is in fact a form of religious discrimination and bigotry.
All this pressure to recite the words, under God, in the Pledge of Allegiance are contrary to what America should represent at it's best. It is contrary to the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It is a sign that we still have to go a lot further to go eliminate religious intolerance.
Interestingly enough but not suprisingly, there have been attempts to add God and Jesus to the US constitution. Christian attempts to amend the US Constitution occurred in 1864, 1874, 1896 and 1911.
The original version of these amendments stated "We, the people of the United States recognizing the being and attributes of Almighty God, the Divine Authority of the Holy Scriptures, the law of God as the paramount rule, and Jesus, the Messiah, the Savior and Lord of all, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and to our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Wisely Congress never passed this or similar amendments . But that doesn't mean God didn't creep in in other ways. For example, there is our current national moto which is printed on our money.
Wikipedia notes that "In God We Trust" is the national motto of the United States of America. It was so designated by an act of Congress in 1956 and officially supersedes "E Pluribus Unum" (Out of Many, One) according to United States Code, Title 36, Section 302. President Eisenhower signed the resolution into law on 30 July 1956.[1
Originally posted by havok
This is from www.majorityrules.org...
A site which talks about the fact that there is NO mention of God in anything that was written in the founding of the United States until the early 1950's when it was introduced into the Pledge of Allegiance and our national motto.
Just saying that the history of our founding fathers is rather skewed. We don't know if they were masonic, christian, or secular, actually.
So...just to clear things a bit. A few people have valid points.
Just my $0.01 (inflation took a penny)
