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Originally posted by jammer2012
reply to post by Exopolitico
Well, to be honest, I do not know too much about the Japanese trying to surrender weeks before we dropped the bombs. From the history I know, that was never the case. It took the second bomb to get them to surrender.
Originally posted by IntastellaBurst
I think the sad thing is .... Japan had already surrendered before the bombs were dropped. ... but the US wanted revenge for Pearl Harbour, ... as well as being able to test the new weapon on a population.
[edit on 7-8-2009 by IntastellaBurst]
American lives were more important than Japanese ones.
A very important thread and IMO proof that those in power will always be willing to kill innocent civilians and have NO discretion whatsoever when it comes to to slaughtering them.
Had these bombs not been dropped and had the invasion been launched as scheduled, combat casualties in Japan would have been at a minimum of the tens of thousands. Every foot of Japanese soil would have been paid for by Japanese and American lives.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Asktheanimals
I would favor a military Olympics with paintball, and other non lethality to have fights over and decide issues. This way, man kind continues to advance militarily, should he ever truly need it, and have peaceful ways of settling things. Military advancements remain the spearhead to advancing the civilian world.
Originally posted by whoshotJR
I agree that its sad people forgot and little is said about it being the 64th anniversary of the bombing although once something passes more then ten years people generally don't talk about it unless it a 5 year mark.
I don't agree with "250 thousand innocent men, women and children.".
It was war and they were killing innocent men and children also, why does it make the US monsters because they won the war? You win a war but blowing up the other person or disabling their ability to continue to fight.
I don't really know where people got this idea that in war people shouldn't die unless they are in uniform but it doesn't happen that way. War is sick and twisted and causes pain and suffering but it's also about domination and each side doing just about anything they can to win over the other at any cost. In this case we had the bomb before they did so we won.
We didn't win because they were more merciful and caring. If given the chance they would have wiped the west coast off the map and we would have been the ones in their position.
Talk about the remembering for the loss of life but don't look to gain much support for your effort with a post like that. War sucks but its reality.
reply to post by Asktheanimals
Wouldn't it be great if all that research went into improving lives instead of weaponry?
Japan was TRYING to surrender AND keep some dignity...
Many of the power Elite funded both sides of WW2. The truth is we could have bombed military or rural targets with minimum civilian casualties and it would have just as easily ended the war (when they saw what the atomic bomb could do) and even if it didn't end the war to drop them on less populated areas we would have just fought it out honorably, soldier to soldier with people who volunteered to die the way war is meant to be fought. You cannot wipe away the blood of thousands of innocent people and children by saying "Well it ended the war didn't it?"
Originally posted by silo13
Not you, or anyone has the right, in the name of *war* to rename a child anything other than innocent. No one has that right.