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Originally posted by starchildtesla
yes it did buckle because the core columns were evaporated by thermite causing a deceptive looking collapse
Originally posted by Seventh
Anything is possible when you run the country, your point with this thread is????????????.
Great example here.......
G.W.B. `The public want an official enquiry`.
Advisor.. `Give them one`.
G.W.B. `But i`m a *Snip*, I will give the game away for sure, plus there`s so much to ahem, hide!!!`.
Advisor `Dear oh dear Sir, you are teh man, before we do it change some rules, you know, then just organize it in a fool proof way`.
G.W.B. `Including bending the laws of Science?`.
Advisor `We are the laws of Science, muhahahahahaha`.
G.W.B. `Muhahahahaha, mmm there`s 500 plus 1st responders that heard our.. *cough* uhm explosions`.
Advisor `Like I said Sir, it`s your show, don`t invite them`.
G.W.B. `I can do that?`
Advisor `Yep, right, okay Sir, here`s the plan, you will be next to Cheney, if there`s any complex question like what`s your name, let him answer for you, okay`.
G.W.B. `Okay, got that, how the hell will we explain WTC Seven?`.
Advisor `WTC What?`
G.W.B. `Ah ha, I like your style, what we need is a scapegoat fronting what appears to be a legitimate and complex investigation, with some form of bribery via a solid promotion etc, etc, who do we have in NIST?`.
Meanwhile over at Sector Seven G.
Government Official.. `Gross hey`.
Catch my drift, matters not if it was a pancake, structural failure, someone left the gas on, when you are the government pulling the strings on agencies like NIST and FEMA, it can be anything you want it to be.
[Mod Edit - snipped profanity]
Do not circumvent the sensors.
[edit on 7/8/2009 by Sauron]
Damn son, do I need your permission to take this quote to other threads?
Originally posted by MightyAl
And what were those excessive explosions visible in the towers? Of all the theories about Building 7, controlled demolition is the most realistic, and was even claimed by Silverstein himself on PBS. They "pulled" it down!
Besides, it had been indeed a pancake collapse would that have disproven that it was an inside job with Israelis from the Mossad dancing around to celebrate?
This video proves absolutely nothing of a kind. This building was gutted for weeks ahead of time and was constructed of concrete. All the pillars were pre-weakened weeks ahead of time as well. Explosives were used to blow the top half of the building to fall on the second half. Nice try though but your just making a fool out of yourself.
Originally posted by mike3
I'm quite skeptical of all these 9/11 Bomb theories. Just a short time ago I came upon something which shows that yes, a "pancake collapse" of a large building is indeed possible:
No explosives were used, the building actually crushed itself after that one floor failed, causing the top to drop onto it. The impact of the top falling just ONE FLOOR had enough strength to crush the floors beneath it.
What do you think? Looks like such a collapse really is possible. It just takes ONE FLOOR of fall to start the process, and the whole thing goes down. The whole tower was destroyed. It just doesn't happen, unless someone wanted it too.
Originally posted by utgardloki
reply to post by evil incarnate
I did read that, but the statements were definitive without support (as you recognize). It surely must be as important to identify why the claims made are untenable. Simple statements of fact are the bane of evidential discussion...
Originally posted by utgardloki
reply to post by mike3
Hi all! First post, so treat me gently...
First of all, it's always useful for evidence purportedly against the 'conspiracy theories' to be provided. The physics of 9/11 has to be definitive. Maybes aren't good enough. Which is why expectations for a definitive alternative to the official narrative is naive.
With respect to this video. On first inspection, it is quite impressive. But beware first impressions!
A number of queries spring to mind.
It is claimed no explosives were used. How long were the cameras trained on this building, to catch it just as it spontaneously fell?
How was it safely weakened, avoiding demolition workers caught in the collapse? Was any supporting structure removed from the bottom half? The top half appears almost disconnected from the bottom. However, in both the twin towers, more than 90% of the columns were intact. What caused them to simultaneously fail?
Certain claims for this video, such as the non-use of explosives, are not sustainable, for reasons hinted at above. There will be many other red flags.
It's fun finding them!