What does 2 + 2 equal?

Originally posted by stander
reply to post by spy66

 

Orwell had to think how to come up with a wrong answer to 2 + 2 = ?
But if 2 + 2, the two 2's relate to 1984, the same number should relate to the wrong answer. So Orwell used this option:

1 + 9 + 8 + 4 = 22
1 x 9 - 8 + 4 = 5

Here is the 5 that relates to 22 as 5 = 2 + 2.

Look up what happened on 5/22/1984 and you will understand the true meaning of "prophecy."

I know what your trying to tell.

But again He is using 2+2 to something specific like 1984. That's not looking for a wrong number. That's looking for the right number.

But what is 2+2 without using 1984? Or without knowing anything about what 2+2 represents.

What is 2+2 alone?

what is 2

what is +

what is the other 2.

Without knowing this you have to make a decision. And it will be based on your education. 2+2 = 4

But is water + water = to 2 lakes or 2 oceans. Or 2 pools of water. Or just a pool of water. Or 1984.
I bet you can relate it to any one of these if you put your mind to it.

Ill go for kids logic.. 22.

Originally posted by VitalOverdose
Ill go for kids logic.. 22.

hehe kids can be very smart.

2+2 can = 22 if you dont put in the + to the equation. Because before you make a equation you will have a infinite amount of 2's

If 22 is what you want that is what you can isolate into a equation.

But 2+2 is a isolated equation where a specific number of elements are present. We just dont know what the elements are.

We know that there are 4 elements but we dont know if it will be a group of elements or just a single element on the right side of equality.

Originally posted by spy66
But 2+2 is a isolated equation where a specific number of elements are present. We just dont know what the elements are.

We know that there are 4 elements but we dont know if it will be a group of elements or just a single element on the right side of equality.

Whether it's divided into groups or combined into one the amount is always the same. Numbers if you didn't realize represent amounts. 2+2 will always equal 4 and only 4. There is no possible way that 2+2=1, the amount of 2 added to another amount of the same kind will produce a total amount of 4. 2 buckets of water and another 2 buckets of water produce 4 buckets of water with no extra or missing water molecules. The bucket is equal to the amount of 1, a tub with four buckets of water poured into it then, would equal the amount of 4 not 1, because the amount is measured in buckets in this equation. And I repeat, 2+2 does not ever =anything but 4.

Originally posted by cancerian42

Originally posted by spy66
But 2+2 is a isolated equation where a specific number of elements are present. We just dont know what the elements are.

We know that there are 4 elements but we dont know if it will be a group of elements or just a single element on the right side of equality.

Whether it's divided into groups or combined into one the amount is always the same. Numbers if you didn't realize represent amounts. 2+2 will always equal 4 and only 4. There is no possible way that 2+2=1, the amount of 2 added to another amount of the same kind will produce a total amount of 4. 2 buckets of water and another 2 buckets of water produce 4 buckets of water with no extra or missing water molecules. The bucket is equal to the amount of 1, a tub with four buckets of water poured into it then, would equal the amount of 4 not 1, because the amount is measured in buckets in this equation. And I repeat, 2+2 does not ever =anything but 4.

Well you dont understand what i mean.

I am not saying that 2+2 dont = 4
sometimes it does. But that depends on what 2+2 is.

Before you look on the right side of equality you know that you have 4 elements. BUT there is a big difference here that you dont see.

2+2 rocks will give you a group of 4 different rocks on the right side of the = symbol. If you use rocks or any solids.
Can you imagine that?

But 4 buckets of water poured out in a tub will not be anything like the equation with 2+2 rocks. Can you imagine that?

You know you have 4 buckets of water but in the tub you will only see a pool of water. Can you imagine that?
That is the difference i am trying to get through to you.

Because you only see the 4 buckets of water before they are poured out into the tub. And that's great : its not wrong at all.
2+2 buckets of water = 4 buckets "great". But the equation is not finished until the water is poured into the tub.

You will have 4 buckets of water in the tub. But it will be just one pool of water after you have poured out the 4 buckets. Can you imagine that?

2 + 2 = 1 pool of water.

2 rocks + 2 rocks = 4 separate rocks

Big difference here in what you will see on the right side of equality (=).


Do you see it now?







[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

Originally posted by spy66
2 + 2 = 1 pool of water.

2 rocks + 2 rocks = 4 separate rocks

Big difference here in what you will see on the right side of equality (=).


Do you see it now?

I saw it the first time, I just didn't agree with it.
You are saying 2 buckets+2 buckets=1 pool
and that is completely alright and I have no problem with it, but that does not mean 2+2=1. In fact your equation without words would be 2x+2x=1y, completely logical. And in fact it is not that big of a difference because 1y=4 when x=1 (which it does when adding 2 buckets+2 buckets). Do you see it now???