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posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 04:06 PM
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no that is the REASON for life hunny


Not to know is to know , well in "time" lol

You see if we "knew" everything, what would be the point? what question would you ask?

would you ask why you knew everything? ; )

seems silly does it not when one thinks of it logically




posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 04:12 PM
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well, thats what i meant. the second we know everything is the second life should just end.

we will never know everything. (at least i hope not). and that is a beautiful thing.

hell we prob dont know a nano amount of what's really out there, and thats great actually. its a little overwhelming to think about things outside of our daily lives. it just gets more confusing and strange the more you think about those things.



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 04:18 PM
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I do agree but that is the fun part.. Thinking is just the same as the thing we are in side..

If you look up at the universe / sky

That my dear is our mind on show, its just a physical representation of your mind

it may not LOOK like a mind but rest asured it wokrs in the very same way..

just like the wings on the butterfly
why 2? why not 3? because LOGIC is even and we know what chaos is.

our collective mind is chaos , when one answers a question it becomes ORDER

your body has a shape = logic mathematics

your mind has no shape = Chaos and the joy we call life ; ) / universe ect ect

its very simple but very complex "if one wishes it to be"



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 04:28 PM
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were all observers in the 3rd dimension that is overlapping all dimensions, time-lines, possibilities based on chance/choice/luck and actions of others around us.

spiritually speaking, your your own light that's split up from all your time lines within the omniverse.

were all one in the same, inside and out and started from the same plane of existence of all possibility of the tenth dimension. (location of the omniverse)

Hard to explain i guess. Good post op



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 04:35 PM
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life is a funny thing, isnt it? we are all searching for the answers in different ways. Searching for the meaning of it all. The meaning of going to work, paying our taxes, and doing the same thing over and over again every day. What is the point of it all? Is there more to life than this? And if so... why havent we figured it out yet?

Religion was started to give some sort of meaning for our existence. Scientists are here to give us information on the past and future when really... who really knows the truth?

No one has any real way of knowing anything really.

at the end of the day it's just science and politics.

but we all have the right to believe whatever we want to believe about life and thats what makes us all different and what shapes all of our lives differently. Dont let some scientist tell you whats right and whats the truth, when they can be plenty wrong.



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 04:50 PM
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You are correct.

The point of life is some what confusing.. for some reasons

we do not know why we are here and we do not know who made us ..

so.. that leads to wars.. people starving and work blah blah


but one must ask.. if you take out all the crap what is left? well its the question of why we are here

now this problem or riddle as i like too call it,, has 2 parts and is reltive to this thread "may i add that is very good"

If we "as life" was created via some method then one can understand how it happend "science" But then we have a other side of asking WHY "that is the biblical side"

but both questions are the same

for if one is to ask about time and space and the creation of such one must understand what it is he is asking!

So i ask why? or do i ask HOW? you see my point?

how has an out come WHY does not....

and in relation to dimentions .. one must think in logic "aka spok" but not in a way that would be mm you know silly but observe your life as a whole..

we have nature.. why or what makes u so apart? if all life is the same "and it is" then what makes you so special?

becuase you can ask WHY? does a tree not ask what way the sun is?

phyical questions and a "mind" metaphrocicly speaking are the same methord.. for its the only way in wich one can "grow"

in our case its knowldge for the tree? its finding the best place to put its leafs

so what does that have to do with dimentions?

its endless.. and the reason for that is YOU

becuase you are the OBSERVER

i hope i didnt melt anyones brain with that .lol



posted on Aug, 8 2009 @ 08:15 PM
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Here is another vid on a better understanding and imagining of the 4th Dimension




posted on Aug, 9 2009 @ 01:37 PM
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well, I'd just like to say thank you for this thread. I've been pondering and going through exactly what many of you have said, and reading this has helped me to better understand exactly what happened because with my human mind I got overwhelmed with what I had experienced.

I feel a lot better now, and I am happy that I trusted God to ease me into this. He knows exactly what I need and he knew that I was ready to KNOW.

I have bought the books mentioned in this thread and am going to watch the movies also, and will continue to read your posts.

Thanks for helping



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 01:58 PM
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Flat land is bunk..

sorry to keep it short but its the truth

flat land is 2d conception of a 3d reality - not possible


because its a mathematical principal does not make flat land a real place..

its a number in an equation..



posted on Aug, 10 2009 @ 03:47 PM
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where is the link ro the vid ?



posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
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Flat land is bunk..

sorry to keep it short but its the truth

flat land is 2d conception of a 3d reality - not possible


because its a mathematical principal does not make flat land a real place..

its a number in an equation..



Yes, you're right, I was claiming that Flatland is a real place and A.Square and I went floating around on a piece of paper.

Since we are arguing now, what is your argument? Are you saying more than 3 dimensions is not possible? Or just the other way?



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 09:42 AM
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I will attempt a simple explanation for the 4th dimension if I may.

Imagine a vibration. A simple vibration like a gentle tone you can hear. Now imagine that everything we can see and touch is made of energy vibrating at this rate. ALL of existance is made of energy. The energy we live in now is vibrating as a gentle tone you can hear.

Now imagine an external influence beginning to affect this vibration. First it starts small as the first waves of this new energy meets this vibrational tone. Now our simple tone is becomming excited. Its energy is beginning to be amplified.

Soon the tone is changing due to the added vibrational rate caused by the new energy. Eventually the tone we are used to starts to resonate with the new energy and then POW!!! The energy suddenly jumps up in amplitude due to resonance.

Now our simple tone has risen in vibration and amplitude to become something completely new. The vibration is now fast enough to give off visible light! This simple tone has evolved from sound into light.

We started out with energy and we are still energy in the end. This new energy can be described as a new dimension. It was always there, we were just not vibrating at a fast enough rate to 'see' it.

This is a good analogy for adding dimension.

The question is what is causing the origional energy to vibrate at a higher rate? What exactly IS this external influence?

Some say it could be the new solar activity we are seeing. The magnetig grid of the Earth is very very weak at this point. IT acts as a shield around the Earth filtering out cosmic radiation. This shield is now very weak and growing weaker. At the same time we are moving into a period of high solar activity. Could this combination be the external influence we a looking for?

Many talk about 2012 and the new era many cultures predict. This new era begins when our solar system becomes aligned with the center of our galaxy. Perhaps there is an energy pathway created when this alignment happens. Maybe there is a transfer of added energy when our star lines up with the center of it's galaxy.

Another theory. There are some who believe the radiation belt our solar system will travel through in the next few years. This cosmic radiation belt could be our catalyst.

All these theories are possible. They are neither provable or disprovable until after the event through observation. Therefore be objective.

I hope this illustrates how a leap in evolution is possible. It does not have to be a million year process.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 09:46 AM
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There's no going to a 4th dimension without first getting rid of our physical bodies;

Forget about living forever trapped in the meat cause it won't happen; 4th dimension is reachable only after you dispose of the perishable shell we live in;

So assuming 4th dimension is coming to the majority of humanity, it means a lot of us should be getting ready to die (that's assuming the majority of predicted events for the next 4 years begin to happen).



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 11:51 AM
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I believe that there will be a 4th dimension in the upcoming new age of Jesus Christ. That will involve astro travel and communication through thought. All of our barriors will be done away with.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 02:09 PM
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I beleive we actually live in the sixth dimension. Instead of traveling through space, we travel through parallel universes.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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S and F!


You clearly gave a lot of thought about this.

As I was reading the OP´s (your) first post and came across ´what could the 4th Dimension be?´ the word ´materialise´ came in my mind.

Materialise like in ´manifested material matter´ and ´none-manifested dematerialised matter´ or simply said: being HERE and being THERE. What I mean is a manner of travelling: you’re here and then (suddenly?) gone.

Then I read what you wrote ´INSIDE AND OUT.´

It’s quite similar in context I think. Although I would think the words better would be ´OUT and INSIDE´.

We are perceiving the ´world´ / dimension around us and that’s the ´out´ side world. Now we come into a more ´inside´ world, the knowledge of our Inner strengths, our Spiritual Self.

Humans are more and more busy with meditations and astral travels. That’s also a movement of ´going IN´, our Consciousness and focus is moving inward.

Next step can be not only travelling ´Astral´ but also travelling with the body ´time travel.´

Somehow I do believe that both Astral travelling and Time travelling have the same concept.


PEACE!



posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 05:25 AM
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Sorry i haven't had time to respond in awhile, been crazy busy with school and work. I do freelance work, so my schedule gets hectic and then slow lol
anyways, i love most of your responses, made me think just a bit more



posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by booggyman111
personally, what i think is that... sometimes when a human being gets either drunk, or "high" as they call it, we kind of go into another dimension, im sure im not the only person on ats to ever get high, or drunk, and if i am... my bad, lol, but seriously, haven't you ever thought about how different you may act while your intoxicated, that that's how you may act in another dimension? Sometimes it may be sad, because you may act stupidly or dumb in some kind of way, buts sometimes you think in a totally different way than if you were when your sober... So what im getting at i guess is that if anyone else thinks that intoxicating yourself makes you seem like your in a different place than you really are... maybe it gives us a glimpse of different places in our "universe" or "reality".. does anyone know what im saying? lol


i KNOW EXACTLY what you mean. Actually Buddhism touches base on that. They dont believe alcohol is good for you at all. They say that alcohol is an easy portal for your anger, ego, and pride to come out ,and show the "WORSE IN YOU".
if you really truelly think about it...almost every Time u have been drunk you have a "GOOD TIME" but at the same time you say "wow i wish i didnt do that, i wish i didn't do this" etc.
it seems that alcohol really does just lead your mind and body into a bad place.

I've thought about it though, once when i was real high...i was trying to imagine myself, where i was...basically trying to "relax" and get a grasp on reality. When alll the sudden i realize...or FELT that i was hovering above myself, that i feel totally disconnected from my body, like an intense OBE...it occurred to me than...
what if?...
i know what tHC does to your brain, basically turns "switches on" your brain that give the fake appearance.
Imagine if you will...a big wall of light switches...and each switch controls an aspect of you. THC is a man, who comes in the room and just turns certain ones off and on, (hunger,laughter,sleepy,angry,horny,confused,loss track of time)

or could it simply be, all that is REAL?
what is anything we feel or experience int his life?
nothing but electrical signals sent to our brain< TELLING US this is what it IS, or at least SHOULD feel like.
can you really tell the difference between reality and a "trip"
would the "TRIP" still be considered REAL reality?



posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by spy66

Originally posted by booggyman111
personally, what i think is that... sometimes when a human being gets either drunk, or "high" as they call it, we kind of go into another dimension, im sure im not the only person on ats to ever get high, or drunk, and if i am... my bad, lol, but seriously, havent you ever thought about how different you may act while your intoxicated, that thats how you may act in another dimension? Sometimes it may be sad, because you may act stupidly or dumb in some kind of way, buts sometimes you think in a totally different way than if you were when your sober... So what im getting at i guess is that if anyone else thinks that intoxicating youself makes you seem like your in a different place than you really are... maybe it gives us a glimps of different places in our "universe" or "reality".. does anyone know what im sayin? lol


We humans can create all kinds of dimensions with our mind. We dont have to dream to be able to do that. All we have to do is visualize, imagine or think.

By visualization you can be what ever shape and form you imagine and still be you.



The power of Visualization is a VERY POWERFUL THING.





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