I'll tell you what they are thinking. They are thinking about the 2010 elections. Obama's approval is dropping like a stone and an increasing number of democrats are beginning to distance themselves from him. Congress is getting hammered during this August recess and that will drive more away from Obama. They are desparate because they know that they finally have a far-left President and with the quality of the current performance, it is the last time in their life time that they will have one. By the end of the year, his approval will be below 40% and he will be a lame duck. By the end of 2010, credible democrats will announce their intentions to run for President, my bet is that Hilliary Clinton is among them. The far left has shown itself to America and America is not buying. At the end of the day, Americans are essentially moderates, either center-left or center-right. Americans are constructive moderates who look to have problems solved, not pursue an agenda. The wings of either the right or left are not accepted by the vast majority of the electorate.

Had Obama run as the President he is, Clinton would have blown his doors off. He's a one-termer and the left knows it, which is why they are pulling out the stops now, tossing union thugs into all of the town hall meetings, creating "tip lines" for folks who disagree with them, any number of things.

They have seen the future. They don't like it. They will do what the can prior to the 2010 elections because they know after that they're done.

No, talk radio & far right "news" outlets like WND are pulling out all the stops to keep people paranoid and angry.

Feeding people misplaced rage with blatant disinfo stories cooked up by insurance industry lobbyists, like the one going around that UHC will mandate euthanizing dear old Granny

Fortunately, most of the country isn't falling for it.


The "anger" is mostly that of a right wing that cannot fathom how they lost an election (to a black guy, especially), after they spent eight years telling everyone else how they were the only "real" Americans, and condemning anyone who opposed the invasion of Iraq as "traitors."

Now, suddenly, they have discovered that Americans have a right to dissent.

Well, it's great that they finally figured that out, I guess.

Better late than never

I think these people are seeing their long sought after changes being protested and ridiculed. They are seeing that what they thought was a nation of mindless people who don't care what the government does, so long as the people get thrown a few bones, isn't the reality that their minds have long hallucinated. I think that these folks are selfdestructing due to their opinion that since they control Congress and the Executive branch of government they believed they could ram anything they wanted through the lawmaking process and are now finding out that change must occur slowly. In their zeal, they forgot that almost half if not more so of the citizens of this country, including those that don't vote, don't want this great change. At least, not change at such a fast pace. Abrupt change, in my opinion based upon my sorry education in history, seems to have always brought dissent. Get over it. If your proposals are such that you are saving humanity from itself, it should be evident. You should be able to explain these things to common people in common language, without lies, without embelishment, and to be able to actually discuss the economic and social benefits to everyone. No excuses. Just plain truth. sorry for my rant. I could go on an on.

Yes, I do believe that the Powers that Be are trying to seed a rebellion, civil war or second revolution.

I believe they believe the only thing that can stop a New World Order, One World Government, One World Currency, One World Religion and my favorite the One World Hamburger Value Meal is a united America still under the illusion that Constitutional Government is real and their right.

They have done an absolutely stellar job at negating and all but destroying the Constitution but the propoganda we as Americans have been fed so long for so many years is so good, that most Americans still labour under the impression our governmental system is a Constitutional one and will fight for it, even though most of them don't have a single solitary clue what a Constitutional Government even looks or sounds like it's been so darn long since we actually have had one.

Getting America to collapse from within becomes paramount. Sadly just the financial crisis isn't enough, there has to be some violence! Wide scale violence, raping, pillaging, robbing, some Viking Long Boats a few crucifixitions, extra points for upside down ones and some where some how a mythical fat lady with an exceptional singing voice has to sing something when it's over, though just like the Constitution no one knows or remembers what's in the song!

I love the smell of Napalm in the mornings, it smells like napalm in the mornings!

Originally posted by xmotex
after they spent eight years telling everyone else how they were the only "real" Americans, and condemning anyone who opposed the invasion of Iraq as "traitors."

Now, suddenly, they have discovered that Americans have a right to dissent.

Well, it's great that they finally figured that out, I guess.

Better late than never

I dissagree with most of your post, but this is one thing I can definately agree with you on.

It's just politics as usual, will this game ever end? Not as long as we have the system in place as we have now. And humans are still roaming the Earth. I say do away with money for good, we need a different system, that's the root of all evil.

[edit on 8/6/2009 by Uniceft17]

Fascist?

Look, you guys had eight years, and you ran this country into the ground.

Now we're supposed to blame all the damage on the guy who has been in office a few months?

Get real

Originally posted by xmotex
Fascist?

Look, you guys had eight years, and you ran this country into the ground.

Now we're supposed to blame all the damage on the guy who has been in office a few months?

Get real

Democrats had control of the House during that time. But we shouldn't blame them for letting Bush get away with what he did. After all he was one man and they couldn't stop him!!

Well, Pelosi apparently thought there were some protesters carrying swastikas. So? Is she trying to sow dissent in the country? Hardly.

Politicians have nothing to gain by creating disorder among the people. Their whole effort is to maintain order, sometimes through brutal or illegal means.

Anyway, what these guys are doing is nothing worse than what the Bush administration did - ridiculing dissenters, suppressing them. Back with Bush, they managed to get the media to ignore most of the dissent, until the very end of the administration.

It seems that what was perfectly acceptable for the Republicans to do, isn't OK for the Democrats to do. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. If one side gets to do it, so does the other; and if it's wrong for one side to do it, then the other side ought not do it, either.

Maybe politicians shouldn't ridicule dissenters. But after eight years of it, suddenly it's objectionable? Come on.

Every day I read the news, and every day I feel like I'm slipping more and more into the twilight zone.

The folks making the laws are supposed to be the smart ones. I guess they are actually the slick ones. While intelligence is important there, a self serving, self important attitude is more important.

I am at a loss. Nothing makes sense.

There are some good people in Congress who are trying to make things transparent and open as possible. Unfortunately, they're not in control. Traitors, such as Pelosi, are, and they're playing a very deceptive game of slurring anyone who thinks outside the mainstream as racist, extremist, right-wingers, nazis, etc. This leads up to their eventually calling them terrorists, and the patriot acts, military commissions act, and defense authorization act will kick in to overdrive.

More and more people will get frustrated as the economy continues to tank and people lose their jobs. Congress and the White House will attempt to buy off as many people as possible, so that means a government-run health care program of some kind will pass. My guess is, all this grandstanding about how health care didn't get passed in the Congress is just a bunch of hype to get the people worked up, kind of like how a video game gets hyped up, only to be delayed a couple years. It makes the people more feverish, but when they get it, they're more delirious with satisfaction.

Now really isn't the time to pass such an important piece of legislation. Think about it. Obama hasn't even been in office a year. If he passes it now, all his political capital will be spent, the euphoria will fade away, and he has to think of something else to get the people to vote for him again, at a time when the economy is failing and people are losing their jobs.....

I personally think we need to force end of life counseling on all the old fart politicians in Washington. We need to tell them why they should off themselves like they want to tell the rest of America.

These leftist whackos need to go. There is no need for the mess they are creating right now.

I say we force the Nazi wanna be's into hospice and then end the EOL program there.