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IR footage in a field, England

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posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by Uniceft17


Ok the 'crop circle' appears to have been woven? The only problem I have with this is the lack of images,

S&F!!


[edit on 8/6/2009 by Uniceft17]


here you go sir/madam, the cropcircle connecter peoples have a fair few pictures of it.INcluding ground shots


www.cropcircleconnector.com...

[edit on 6/8/2009 by Acidtastic]




posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 01:55 PM
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This is one of the sham sites I have been talking about. I heard this lady on coast to coast am and her acting between george noory and herself was so sickening and fake it was unreal. I must point out the problem with this video.

1. They set camera's up on the field but only show 5% of the actual design.

2. The have increased the speed by 1000% which virtually makes seeing anyone or anything damn near impossible

3. They do not show the whole field being constructed or manipulated even though they have cameras set up

4. This lady is always promoting her DVD's.

5. Ahh yes, thanks for reminding me. The land owners make money off of the tourists.

6. And it always finishes with buy my DVD. Did i already say that


[edit on 6-8-2009 by epete22]



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 01:55 PM
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I think that the daylight photo is not taken from exactly the same place, the hills on the background are not in the same position and the slight hill in the foreground in the IR image does not exist in the daylight image.

And we cannot use the lines on the ground because the filed is full of those lines, using them as a reference means nothing if we do not have any other reference.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by Acidtastic

Originally posted by Uniceft17


Ok the 'crop circle' appears to have been woven? The only problem I have with this is the lack of images,

S&F!!


[edit on 8/6/2009 by Uniceft17]


here you go sir/madam, the cropcircle connecter peoples have a fair few pictures of it.INcluding ground shots


www.cropcircleconnector.com...

[edit on 6/8/2009 by Acidtastic]


Thanks man, Simply amazing.


Have we seen any other crop cirlces with woven designs.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:11 PM
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This could easy have been made with a combination of flexible fiberboard and a small magnitude electromagnetic pulse motor with a 2 inch drive attached. 2 people could do it in about 15 minutes if they had a laser level and a spotter.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:13 PM
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The fact that people in England make a living of the crop circle phenomena keeps me sceptic.

Organisations like Sacred Britain Tours are offering group tours including helicopter flights over the fields during summertime. Looking at the prices they ask, its big business. Same for books and DVDs.
Want the truth? Follow the money....

On the other hand, strange phenomena happen everywhere, why not in Englands wheat fields!



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:14 PM
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That is a good thought but, what about the "weaving"??? That is the part that is getting me!.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
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That is what I have been saying, the people that confess that have made crop circles say that they see these lights during the night, but those that do not believe in man-made crop circles ignore it and they may have been missing a real phenomenon.


Nick Redfern (English Ufologist, author etc) says exactly that. He has friends that have been making crop formations for a long time. One of whom is the only guy in the UK to be charged for making them. His friends have described thinking of making a certain design only to find someone else made it during the night. He is emphatic that they aren't hoaxes...legitimate passtime.

Another thing they've said is that the circle they set out to create somehow changed design during the making. Also, they've described seeing orbs of light during the night and suspect something 'paranormal' is going on in a few cases.

I'm not someone that gets worked up about formations (no interest other than the artistic value), but those comments from Nick Redfern caught my attention.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:25 PM
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To bad we don't know the model of cameras that were used. Pretty much all day/night security cameras are sensitive across the visible spectrum as well as the near infrared spectrum. This means that what we are seeing in the video could very possibly be visible light.

Here is an example of the response of a CCD camera image sensor.

As you can see the sensitivity of a CCD camera peaks in the red part of the spectrum but extends across the visible spectrum and into the near infrared.

It was previously posted that wind blowing the crop is causing the wave effect. That was my first impression as well although the footage may have needed to been sped up to appear like this. Perhaps evidence of the footage being sped up can been found through analysis of the footage.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:27 PM
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maybe it's just me, but isn't infrared for picking up differences in heat?? it looks to me like all that is is a heat wave or something coming through, like a warm wind traveling over the field - it looks like air currents of different temperatures...

i sure didn't see any crop circles...

[edit on 6-8-2009 by adrenochrome]



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:30 PM
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That seems kind of harsh. From what I understand, Linda Moulton Howe is a pretty well respected journalist with a number of awards including an emmy. I think she does a very good job investigating the paranormal claims that cross her path. What makes earthfiles.com a sham site?



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:45 PM
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Wow this is incredible! I can definitely see more videos coming out like this soon, since it only takes one to get other people recording too. I'm slightly confused with the single flash and supposed entity walking out of it. I just don't see it. But the shadows going over the field,, I mean it's independence day all over again. Awesome vids.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:02 PM
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It was the interview I heard with her and george noory. I just couldn't get over how contrived it was. It was like they were both reading from some poorly constructed script. The acting was so bad and she kept repeating you can buy my DVD. I know everyone is entitled to make money but her approach was just wrong.

And the whole camera thing raises serious questions, if this has really been going on why has a camera never been set up on the whole field......

Well now a camera has been set up and look what it shows. A very small portion of the vid. This should be major red flags.

Don't forget, buy my DVD.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:08 PM
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Why wasn't the camera running at a higher frame rate? And why aren't there more pictures of the crop circle?

This is very intriguing, but it is not very convincing given the lack of evidence.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:10 PM
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UFOs in England are nothing new. I had an encounter with UFO orbs last August in Birmingham, England. I will tell you, they are readily seen across the the UK.

Here's more IR footage from Southhampton of UFOs. The lights you see on the ground at 0:55 are from car headlights. Also, notice how there is a UFO on the crop itself in the lower right hand corner at the very beginning (*edit* you can't see it cuz of the Youtube logo but if you click on the video and watch it directly from Youtube's site you'll see what I mean).





[edit on 6-8-2009 by hermantinkly]



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:19 PM
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I love this site, I really do. It gives me so much enjoyment. All you folks out there looking for something, anything, that might support your preconceived ideas. It is I suppose a little bit sad but it's also hugely amusing. Thank you ATS for keeping me so highly entertained.

I am so looking forward to the next unexplained enigma.

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posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:28 PM
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Yes I read that thread, but I think the Rocketfellers were funding the research of these circles, and perhaps not the websites directly, I think because they want to stay one step ahead of people lol.

Who knows what they know that we don't know.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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What you are doing here is a good one.
Unexplained phenomenon,that is.
PS it was explained in the other thread that it was Nelson R who was involved with UFO and CC phenomenae,not his brother.He's the good one.

[edit on 6-8-2009 by trueforger]



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:35 PM
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Wow, finally a crop circle that actually looks alien!
There have beens so many fake looking ones recently... the fact that this doesnt feel man made is a big sigh of relief.
This dude was incredibly lucky to film it... what are the chances!



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:39 PM
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Anybody else notice that in this picture:



There is a little dark object exactly where the IR cameras picked up the flash. What is that thing??? If it's something that might, say, light/heat up, then that would explain the flash of light on the IR footage. Seems like this could have been a set up to be honest.


IR picture for reference:




**edit for typo

[edit on 6-8-2009 by paradigm619]



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