UK to Cancel F-35B Order?, page 1
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Topic started on 6-8-2009 @ 10:27 AM by jensy
The news was leaked in the Daily Telegraph today that the MOD is looking first to switch from the Rolls Royce engine for the JSF to the cheaper American version.

Telegraph Article

This is followed by a revelation that in the autumn/fall the MOD will be announcing a switch to the F-35C. This will lead to a cost reduction for the fighters themselves but will at the same time ensure that, if the new carriers are to be built, they will have to be constructed with catapults and runway; as opposed to the ski-jump which was originally planned.


F-35C



CVF in Conventional Take off and Landing Style



One has to wonder if this is a rather cunning way to cancel the carriers (ironically by ordering a carrier optimised aircraft).

Firstly they order the F-35C – with the argument that it makes more sense

Secondly they cancel the carriers - As the cost of making them CV rather than STOVL is too great

Thirdly they cancel the JSF completely – What is the point of these planes if there is nothing to land them on

Fourthly the RAF is left with only one front line aircraft the Eurofighter Typhoon – An excellent Interceptor but little more than a jack of all other trades.

IMHO it would make considerably more sense to pull out of the JSF altogether and buy a combination of Dasault Rafales to operate alongside the typhoon as both a strike craft and carrier airpower.



Jensy


reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 03:21 AM by Harlequin
reply to post by FredT



given the french experience with the charles de gaul , they are moving away from nuke power - the new brit boats (and likely the french as well ) will use the RR MT30 mairne trent , 4 of them producing 36MW each - coming of 144MW total.

as for launch of a MAGCAT , even a nuke boat cannot `on demand` divert power - EMALS needs in the order of 122 mega joules to use , and the peak load of even the Gerald Fords cannot really do that , not with other ship demands - so they take up to a minute to recharge - so if the new CVF use them they will take longer to charge - but alot less time than steam cats do now

[edit on 7/8/09 by Harlequin]


reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 08:14 AM by deckard83
reply to post by C0bzz


True that the F136 performance is just what is being reported that GE people are saying and you can't trust them any more than P&W or LM.

Where as P&W gets an order worth $571 for 21 engines
www.forbes.com...

$27 million an engine I wonder how much that can be brought down as production ramps up.

Any body know if the telegraph cost figures for the F-35B F-35C are likely to be accurate.
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