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Topic started on 5-8-2009 @ 09:21 PM by burntheships

Ok...I am not buying this double speak propaganda peice by Politico

Pending quarentine laws have been on record since 2005 under Bush. Now the Obama Administration out of the public's eye is reviewing a change in the rules allowing quarantines of large groups of people in a very short time!?

"Travel permits" !? Trust the government!? Yeah right!

In order for this to work, it has to be collaborative.They have to trust the government

Sure...Trust the government?

Officials said the proposed regulations focused mainly on detaining small numbers of individuals. However, the rules also discussed scenarios “when it is necessary to provisionally quarantine a large group of persons on a very short time frame.”

Large Groups of people? Why? How?

That would have at least some of the rules in place if swine flu returns with a vengeance later this year, though officials are reluctant to make that link publically.

While quarantines are sometimes imposed by state and local officials on uncooperative patients federal quarantine has been almost unheard of in recent decades

Unheard of in recent decades?

The proposals to limit liberty represent a dangerous precedent to constitutional theory, particularly when there’s almost no evidence it will matter. ... It wouldn’t surprise me if they try to sneak this past in August, when people are away.”

Sneak the proposals through?

The plan is backed by the CDC. “It’s important to public health to move forward with the regulations,” said Christine Pearson, a spokeswoman for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “We need to update our quarantine regulations, and this final rule is an important step.” The Office of Management and Budget has confirmed the lock-down plan is currently in “an interagency review process.”

As the flu outbreak approaches — promised to hit this autumn — we are beginning to see the full extent of the government’s plan to declare martial law and further violate the Constitution, or sideline it completely.

An outbreak of the flu is only a convenient pretext. According to Politico, analysts said the administration may want to hold new quarantine powers in reserve, for “unforeseen situations” or for diseases other than the flu.

In other words, the government may use the new lock-down regulations for political reasons. Late last year, the IMF said U.S. troops may need to be used to quell protests and bank runs during an economic crisis, according to the U.S. Army War College’s Strategic Institute.url

We all remember last fall...the first bail out....they were secretly making plans for martial law...only they had not released the "novel flu" virus yet!

It was revealed at the time by Sen. James Inhofe and Rep. Brad Sherman that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson considered the possibility of civil unrest while he pushed for September’s Wall Street bankster bailout and even suggested martial law might be required.

There is no difference between the Bush and Obama administations concerning this!

Not terrorists we need to be concerned about...instead, tyranny!

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reply posted on 5-8-2009 @ 09:56 PM by Hastobemoretolife

Smell that? That is the smell of fascism in our midst.

This is a cleverly executed ploy. Sell a "socialist" to young generation, and tailor a plan that sounds like socialism when in reality it is fascism.

We need to start logging these tactics and compile them in a book for our future generations if we are able to make it out of this alive.

reply posted on 5-8-2009 @ 09:58 PM by SPC_D

reply to post by burntheships

I am not trying to be a d bag here I just don't know is www.politico.com a trusted site? it sounds and looks legit but is the info from there good??

reply posted on 5-8-2009 @ 09:59 PM by Kords21

And we still wonder how the Germans let Nazi Germany happen.

reply posted on 5-8-2009 @ 10:30 PM by burntheships

reply to post by SPC_D

Your can read more about Politico here...a MSM outlet read by about 4.6 million...
www.tcf.org...

reply posted on 5-8-2009 @ 10:35 PM by SPC_D

reply to post by burntheships

Ahhh indeed! Thank you for your help and a star for you. This is disconcerting to me I wonder if they would actually do this? It is one thing to speculate it is another to enact laws.

reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 01:00 AM by lagnar

Originally posted by Kords21
And we still wonder how the Germans let Nazi Germany happen.

Yeahp. I feel more like a frog or lobster than a sheep. I keep seein' bits 'n pieces of "The Pianist" over and over while reading the news anymore.

People won't do a frickin' thing until their own life is questioned, and some won't even question then.

Well said, Star.

EDIT: Mildly profane accent removed.

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reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 04:59 AM by burntheships

Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
Smell that? That is the smell of fascism in our midst.

I smell it alright. Now CBS has published a "report" on this also.
So for all those who would say it is not legit untill reported by a MSM here you have it.

Now you have got to ask yourselves this...
Why are they telling us this?

Report: White House Weighing Fed. Quarantine Rules
cbs4.com...

Is Martial Law Imminent?

www.examiner.com...

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reply posted on 7-8-2009 @ 12:52 AM by lagnar

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Yeah, man. Pretty much that whole second link needs to be copied and emailed to every so-called news journalist in the nation. Especially this part:

"The evidence that we the people, are at risk of being placed under martial law, and losing all of our rights as guaranteed by the Constitution is overwhelming." - Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA)

I'm personally starting to believe that this might just be a planned outcome. In fact, from what I'm reading, it seems it's pretty much a constant barrage of attempts being thwarted by accident or something, like Inspector Cluseau is all that staving off our well-deserved taste of reality.

Fortunately, I think all of these attempts at fear-mongering (if that's what they are at their core) might actually be back-firing on them (TPTB). Just the fact that the information is out there in public view at all is prompting people to do their own research, and of course, that seems to be leading them where most of us are here on ATS. Indeed, serving the greater good in that it seems a lot more people are waking from their slumbers of complacency and starting to ask questions while leaning in, holding their hands out and staring them in the face.

FOR REAL -> CUDOS ABOUND! It would seem the more actual physical connection 'they' get from us, the more 'they' realize 'we' are real, and 'we' might have some value in their lives...if only in the interests of self-preservation.

reply posted on 12-8-2009 @ 10:22 AM by prophecywatcher

I can see how martial law would be needed in the event of swine flu outbreak. Stores would be closed down, schools would be closed down, businesses closed down. We wouldn't be able to buy anything. Dead bodies everywhere. The Swine flu is the perfect government conspiracy to control the people, to enforce health care reform and to bring about the one world government.

reply posted on 5-9-2009 @ 02:52 PM by burntheships

Pandemic Response Bill Draws Fire

The federal act, introduced soon after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, was intended to combat chemical warfare threats more than flu pandemics at a time when bio-terrorism was a greater threat than swine flu, critics say.

Now eight years later, the federal model's provisions compromise constitutional rights and personal freedoms more than they protect citizens, according to state Rep. Jeffrey Perry, R-Sandwich. "I'm a big student of history. ... We hope we've learned lessons from the things we've done as a nation in times of crisis," said Perry, Cape Cod's lone representative to the House Ways and Means committee, which has been reviewing the proposal. "Apparently, some people have not."

The state Senate approved the bill unanimously in April, following the recommendations of Moore, a former regional director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, according to state Sen. Robert O'Leary, D-Barnstable.

Excerpts from the bill:

During a declared emergency, a designated health officer, with the approval of the state health commissioner, may exercise the authority to:

"require the owner or occupier of premises to permit entry into, and investigation of, the premises."

"close, direct, and compel the evacuation of ... any building or facility."

"decontaminate or ... destroy any material."

"require in-state health care providers to assist in the performance of vaccination, treatment, examination, or testing of any individual."

Source: Senate Bill 2028, An Act Relative to Pandemic and Disaster Preparation and Response in the Commonwealth.

.........To date, three states — Delaware, Oklahoma and South Carolina — have adopted the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act in its entirety. A total of 37 states have adopted portions of the federal model, though most have avoided contentious issues such as home entry and required assistance with vaccination efforts, according to George Annas, chairman of Boston University's Health Law, Bioethics and Human Rights Department.

No state, including Louisiana during Hurricane Katrina, has ever taken action on the federal model's provisions.

"Overall, it's totally unnecessary," said Annas, a vocal opponent of the bill. "Almost everybody now concedes that it makes no sense for pandemics. ... All it does is undermine public trust in public health."