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posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Roadblockx
reply to post by Avenginggecko
 


Ok. I'll call your bluff. I can send an email from my state issued email account. Wanna send one from your "judge's" email account? Pick a third party and send your email to them. Unless you want to, don't claim to be something you're not.

As for the other items you listed, refer to my post to your partner ninecrimes. You both are just trolling around looking for threads to blast those that have a different idea then yours. Instead of debating them, you flood the thread with rambles and rants about how the killing of something growing is ok and should be paid for by the government. You don't debate you spread hate. There is no place for that and I am done repeating my points to you and ninecrimes. If you don't like my points, that's fine. Great. Move on to the next thread and start your rants over again.

The rest of us would like to discuss something more indepth then why it is ok to kill and have the government pay for it. If you would like the last word, please proceed with doing so. Then let the rest of us move on.



Wow, what disinformation.

Please stop insulting me openly, I am trying to ask you simple questions and you stoop as low as to put words in my mouth?

Please cite where I said I support government funded abortions.

I will be waiting.




posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:46 PM
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reply to post by ninecrimes
 


Why have we been granted this ability? Because we are the choosen ones. That's why.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by Roadblockx
reply to post by ninecrimes
 


Why have we been granted this ability? Because we are the choosen ones. That's why.


Just more deflection, what a surprise.

Man, you have really killed this topic with your insults and sarcasm. You've attacked everyone who has come to discuss, except those who agree with you.

EDIT- to clarify, my question was not why do we have the ability. It was "why do you feel like you need to". Please take the time to read questions before answering them so snidely.

[edit on 6-8-2009 by ninecrimes]



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:51 PM
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Abortion is legal, thus why wouldn't the new health care package cover it? Don't like it? Fight to make illegal. Until then, the right thing will continue to be done and women will have the choice.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:51 PM
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I started the thread.


Since RP was mentioned in the discussion, only fair to mention youtube removing the vids.



[edit on 6-8-2009 by Roadblockx]



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:51 PM
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*** ATTENTION ***

GET ON TOPIC AND STOP DISCUSSING EACH OTHER!!!!



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:52 PM
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ninecrimes stop trolling man

........seriouslyyyy



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
ninecrimes stop trolling man

........seriouslyyyy


Please tell me how I have been trolling, and be sure to include quotes.

Until then, it is you who is trolling. I am here trying to discuss the topic on hand, while you guys are going off on Ron Paul and other irrelevant matters.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:57 PM
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Forgive the rude idea, but.....

that assumes that is is not struck down in the Supreme Court.

We are just about to get a new Justice, you never know how the vote may sway.......



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by elevatedone
*** ATTENTION ***

GET ON TOPIC AND STOP DISCUSSING EACH OTHER!!!!



supermod, a little late but I appreciate the help finally.




posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:57 PM
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ok so back on topic now

I agree with the argument, somewhat, that the baby is dependant on a woman's body to live.

but that does NOT make the baby not seperate
it is a seperate entity

[edit on 6-8-2009 by ModernAcademia]



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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Modern, do what I did and just report ninecrimes. Maybe that will help. Who knows..... It took 3 hours for them to even review this.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
reply to post by ninecrimes
 


trying to bait people out is trolling
and personal attacks are an extra, which you are also doing


You did not provide evidence, which if this is true should have been easy to post.

Thus, you are trolling and insulting me with bottomless accusations.

Please stop trying to derail me. Thanks.

PS- you guys are only saying I'm trolling because you don't want to answer the one question I've been asking all along. I'm sorry for coming here expecting a discussion, when all you guys want to do is talk about how I'm supposedly trolling. FYI- you guys could have U2U'd me, but instead you just keep posting and posting and posting and posting about off-topic trash.

[edit on 6-8-2009 by ninecrimes]



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
ok so back on topic now

I agree with the argument, somewhat, that the baby is dependant on a woman's body to live.

but that does NOT make the baby not seperate
it is a seperate entity

[edit on 6-8-2009 by ModernAcademia]


I agree. The woman is the carrier of the baby and is dependent on the mother for life until a certain point, like 28 weeks? 24?



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by Roadblockx

Instead of debating them, you flood the thread with rambles and rants about how the killing of something growing is ok and should be paid for by the government. You don't debate you spread hate. There is no place for that and I am done repeating my points to you and ninecrimes. If you don't like my points, that's fine. Great. Move on to the next thread and start your rants over again.


I'm still waiting for your evidence that I said I support government funded abortions.

I don't understand how you guys think I am the one not discussing things when I keep trying to bring things back to the thread topic.

So, back on topic, please reiterate on the words you've put into my mouth, so we can proceed.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by mrmonsoon
Forgive the rude idea, but.....

that assumes that is is not struck down in the Supreme Court.

We are just about to get a new Justice, you never know how the vote may sway.......


Could the new supreme judge really go that route? I doubt it. She is left leaning.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:05 PM
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You confuse far right to mean the religious conservatives, who mostly socialist... Conservative used to mean what we now call Libertarian values.. the Libertarian party is as far "right" as it gets, aside from anarchy perhaps =)

Nothing wrong with being a right wing extremist seeking the end of the federal government is ther?!?



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:08 PM
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It is legal yes but before this BHO Health Policy, it was limited to what conditions it could be performed under. That was where part of this discussion got so out of hand. Please don't even try to post any suggestions on the conditions it should be expanded/limited too.....
You have no idea the storm you will brew up.

Feel free to discuss anything else!



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:10 PM
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Would you have a problem with a one time coverage for non-rape situations? Think about it, a young girl makes a mistake and decides she cannot handle having her life completely disrupted by an unplanned pregnancy and all the trouble that will come from that (i.e. DCF, HRS, vaccination decisions, providing healthcare for a child). Now consider this, doesn't it make sense to impose a limit so people can't ritualistically abuse the system by being impregnated repeatedly and aborting them? They ought learn from their mistake, eh? Now here's the kicker, should rape cases be allowed to abort? More specifically, should incest rape cases be allowed to abort? If so, what cap could be set for those who are the victims of rape? If a woman reports being raped and she has had a prior abortion due to personal choice, should she have monetary help withheld? I'm of the opinion rape cases should be covered. Personal choice abortions ought also be covered as everyone makes mistakes, but we ought learn from those mistakes. In this case, the mistake costs a life. It is very sad and heartbreaking and those who think most women who go through the abortions don't suffer as well just don't have a clear picture in their mind. Abortions ought NOT be illegal, because that produces unsafe abortion practices and they ought be insured because raped women ought not have to pay for their abortions. Ultimately, rapists should foot the bill. In cases where there is no rapist, just a bad choice...we're not playing football (no 7 downs), nor baseball (no 3 strikes)...we're talking basketball...you get 1 shot.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:10 PM
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There are a few reasons I am personally against abortion.. aside from killing babies, there ARE side effects that are NEVER mentioned...

When a girl (and so often they are just girls, hardly women) gets an abortion it is emotionally, physically, and mentally destructive. Going beyond PTSD, many are scarred for life by the incident... no one ever tells them of this outcome, the notions around abortion make it seem like the "easy way out" when in fact it's so very traumatic..



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