New toy your young daughter can breastfeed ....sad

Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by gYvMessanger

 

yes, but you do know it is breast feeding. this is not an important lesson for a pre-adolescant little girl...

do you know how many women choose to bottle feed. even though it is cheaper, easier, more natural and risk free (even beneficial) to breastfeed? i'd bet money if all the dolls little girls played with didn't come equipped with a bottle that more women would be comfortable with breastfeeding. many women do claim that they find breastfeeding unnatural and creepy...much like the reaction to this doll.

reply to post by TLomon


apples and oranges. one has to do with motherhood... where as anyone can feed a baby with a bottle.

I just find it inappropriate for a little girl. she should be focusing on playing and childhood. not the responsibilities of adults.

she will have plenty of time to do those things when she becomes of age and has children of her own...

reply to post by TLomon


I agree. We are not telling our children to become parents, but teaching them about the world. A mother bear teaches her young to hunt, fish and even kill if necesary.
Humans teach children about becoming adults. We are not raising children to remain children forever, and I would rather my daughter know that breasfeeding is natural and the best nutrition for her baby.

I teach her to clean up after herself and do chores to learn how to be independent, but I am not telling her to move out.

Fathers want their boys to learn about being men, they give them trucks, tools, guns, fishing rods and other accouterments of societies ideas of manhood.

I was a Bradley Natural Childbirth Instructor for many years and all of my children, boys and girls, sometimes sat in on classes and saw actual births, many of them were there at the birth of a sibling.

It is a natural and beautiful aspect of life. The many comments here demonstrate the under lining of societies obvious issue against motherhood and all of its component parts.

How many of you would prefer a homosexual couple set or a doll that performs acts of bestiallity?

My daughter also breasfeeds her doll. Montessori said that childrens work is their play and it is how they integrate the adult world into their perspective.

I think we all know that something is just down right wrong about this.

What could possibly be the motive of the manufacturers for making this toy??

Teaching girls that breastfeeding is good for a child? What girl needs to be concerned about that at such a young age? In my opinion, it subconsciously promotes sex.

Why they are doing this is beyond me.

reply to post by gYvMessanger

and their is nothing wrong with breastfeeding, its natural and its good for the children.

I agree, but it still not something that a little girl needs to be practicing or even thinking about, in my opinion.

reply to post by open_eyeballs


What are you raising, a permanent child or a soon to be adult? Play is a learning time for children and natural and innocent. Only adults make this bad. My daughter breasfeeds her doll because she sees the moms around her do it, that is natural.
Indigenous tribes around the globe would tell you every day of a childs life is a day they are learning to become adults, play does not have to go out of that.

All I know about breastfeeding is that it looks like it would be pretty easy for that woman in the ad that frequently pops up on the right side of the screen.

reply to post by open_eyeballs


Life is learning experience, personally I would prefer that my daughter was learning she should breastfeed a baby to stop it crying, then learning she needs to take Barbie to the beauty salon, or that she play with boy orientated toys which like killing each other.

Are you suggesting you wouldnt get your female child a baby doll full stop ?

Because if she shouldnt be learning to breast feed why exactly should she be learning how to change diapers, bottle feed and put baby to nap time in her young play time.

reply to post by spiritwomyn


It may be innocent. Im not implying anything to the contrary, but for a 4,5,6,7,8 etc., year old girl to practice breast feeding? Doesnt seem a natural form of playing.

I just had a daughter. I just asked my wife whom breast feeds around the clock if she thought it was a natural thing for little girls to be doing. She was emphatic on her one word reply: no.

It just doesnt seem to me and others apparently a good form of play for a little girl.

Women all throughout history have never had such a toy to help them learn about such things. I dont see why they need one now.

[edit on 5-8-2009 by open_eyeballs]

Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by TLomon

 

apples and oranges. one has to do with motherhood... where as anyone can feed a baby with a bottle.

I just find it inappropriate for a little girl. she should be focusing on playing and childhood. not the responsibilities of adults.

she will have plenty of time to do those things when she becomes of age and has children of her own...

I respect your point, but as a former little girl allow me to say that I LOVED baby dolls, feeding them, changing their diaper, and having a doll that pee'd was so grand! I don't recall ever seeing a mother breastfeed her children, because if I had I probably would have mimicked it, too.

I also loved my tiny kitchen. I had the refrigerator, stove, and even a washing machine. I mimicked what my mom did with her kitchen and had a lot of fun doing it.

All of my girl friends enjoyed the same things. We loved being little mommies. We also loved playing with the boy's toys, too.

It's just how a lot of little girls are. As children we can't wait to be adults. It isn't until we are adults that we relish being children

[edit on 5-8-2009 by Alora]

reply to post by gYvMessanger


A girls imagination always tends to be of girly things. Babies are a girly thing. Dolls have been around for ages, as someone previously mentioned. Girls like dolls because their moms have babies and usually moms spend the majority of the time taking care of the baby. Girls naturally want to be like their mom. That doesnt mean it is natural for a girl to pretend to breast feed. The toy is putting the idea of breast feeding into the girls head...

Breast feeding a baby by a small child is not a learing experience. She doesnt even know how the baby got their in the first place. Why should she be learning such mature things at such an immature age?

A girl of this age should be playing with things of her age. This just seems to cross a line.

reply to post by open_eyeballs


women throughout history spent their days with their mothers and not at school.

and throughout history dolls have been a typical toy for girls, of all ages.
however, in the last, i don't know 20-30 years dolls have come with bottles.
and in the last, i don't know 10-20 years breastfeeding has decreased to practically extinct. doctors are surprised and overjoyed when they hear of a woman breastfeeding, its that rare.

is there a correlation here? maybe, maybe not.
maybe the doll shouldn't come with the nursing shirt-y thing. BUT dolls shouldn't come with accessories to teach young girls to bottle feed (or that that is the only way)

to say that a doll that teaches one to breastfeed as opposed to one that comes with a bottle is more likely to make a child have a baby younger is RIDICULOUS.
girls have always played with dolls.
since the family has slowly been capsized in our society girls have been having babies younger and younger, not due to the baby dolls they have been playing with.
though being a W***e is encouraged by Mattel...barbie. are you going to let your daughter play with barbies?

reply to post by Alora


As did my wife. Very girly all through childhood. Dolls, barbies and all things of that nature you mentioned. Yet she finds it disturbing for a little girl to be placing a baby at her chest and pretending to breast feed it.

I suppose it is a matter of opinion. But I dont think I will be purchasing that particular baby for her to be pretending to feed it at her nipple. And I wouldnt encourage anyone for their child to be spending time performing such things either...

Originally posted by absconditussapientia
I think we all know that something is just down right wrong about this.

Actually, if you read all the posts, you will find out that we are not all in agreement on this issue.

Could someone explain what exactly is sexual about breastfeeding? Maybe I am missing something here, but I am just not seeing it. Is this an upbringing thing?

As another posted mentioned, kids have been having dolls for centuries. I am also willing to bet they practiced breastfeeding the dolls just like their mommy did - if they were exposed to it.

Oh, and to clarify, it isn't an angle thing. It is a smock the child wears that has daisies on it - the doll activates when the mouth is near the daisy.

Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by gYvMessanger

 

The toy is putting the idea of breast feeding into the girls head...

Yep that's kinda the point, see the post above yours where a women is recounting her own experience playing with such dolls.

Breast feeding a baby by a small child is not a learing experience. She doesnt even know how the baby got their in the first place. Why should she be learning such mature things at such an immature age?

Of course its a learning experience, and depending on the age of the child she may know full well where a baby comes from, or at least know its something to do with mummy and daddy loving each other very much.


Do you have a problem with the old baby doll models, where they change the diaper, give it a bottle, and have to put it to sleep every so often to stop it crying ? In terms of "mature things" they are on the EXACT same level as Breast Feeding the doll.

reply to post by open_eyeballs


you seem to have very little undestanding of child development and the value of introducing (age appropriate) themes and values to young children that stick with them into adulthood (not that push them into growing up too fast)

reply to post by open_eyeballs


If it should be fun and girly with no responsibilities, then why don't you push to have the "pee dolls" removed from the market, too?

Since kids don't need to learn about changing babies until they actually need to know about it. Right?

That seems to be your argument.

reply to post by gYvMessanger

In terms of "mature things" they are on the EXACT same level as Breast Feeding the doll.

this is a matter of opinion.

As I have stated, there has not been a doll throughout history that encourages little girls to put a doll up to their breast. Yet most women who have children learn and have gotten along fine without it. My wife whom never pretended to put a doll up to her chest as a small girl breast feeds with the best of them...And that is without any help from a toy doll encouraging her to put it up to her nipple...

In all honesty given the state of american media and advertising methodology I am absolutely gobsmacked that american are so "prudish" about this, are you so over saturated with pornographic-lite images that you cannot see beyond the sex-sex-sex being sold to you by the MSM ?

Breast Feeding = Teaching a child the correct way to feed a baby.

Changing Diaper = Teaching a child the correct way to clean a baby up.

They are both learning tools, they are both the correct learning tools. The problem here is you see Boobs as sexy not that the toy is perverted, I really just dont get where this hang up comes from has it been like that for long in the states ?

[edit on 5-8-2009 by gYvMessanger]

reply to post by ravenshadow13


I havent pushed for anything to be "removed from the market." I just personally find the toy inappropriate...And apparently Im not alone in this matter...