Hezbollah Stockpiles 40,000 Rockets Near Israeli Border, page 2

reply to post by dooper

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This is what Hezbolla brings on to the civillians of Lebanon.

They hide behind civillians and fire wepons in the hope that the "counter" attack kills or injures civillians.

They are less than animals and their complete removal would allow peace between Lebanon and Isreal.

reply to post by FlyersFan

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Off Topic??? I think not. Deny Ignorance is the ATS moto. Now, having said that Your promoting with stories that from a paper that is pro Israeli. I don't know about your critical thinking skills, but read the article closely.

As has been noted several times, in regards to critiques of MSM articles, that article lacks proof.

It uses this guy said, that, or this, and then it interjects an off the wall claim; which bears no support from any of the talking heads mentioned.

No off topic, I'm denying ignorance.

Your jaded in the fact of numerous threads which support the Israeli/US Government official stories.

In so doing imo your a war monger; the references to support the Palestinians are usually grass roots. Not MSM.

The real scary thing is supporting the official Israeli/US Govt disinformation news articles not only lead to war, but it will lead to countless US, and Israeli deaths.

Possibly the end of both countries. When looking at people like Albert Pyke, and knowing the battle of armagedden is to take place in Israel, I'd hope anyone could see the push for the "final war".

Leads me to think more people should deny ignorance. All completely valid, and on topic.

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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This is what Hezbolla brings on to the civillians of Lebanon.

It was not Hisbullah that bombed villages on the border with Syria at the other end of the country but Israel. It was Israel that bombed the intersections of congested roads, residential neighbourhoods, power plants and petroleum storage depots.

You can insist that Israel has the right of the collective punishment of the people of countries it choices to invade but it is up to others to designate it as a terrorist state.

They hide behind civillians and fire wepons in the hope that the "counter" attack kills or injures civillians.

That is just continuation of zionist propaganda. It is also what Israeli soldiers have been recorded on video doing as a matter of course with civilians they capture.

To imagine people using their own as human shields defies reason, is an illogical allegation and is contrary to self defence. What is the point of defending yourself against Israeli aggression if you are going to stuff your own people into the jaws of the invader.

They are less than animals and their complete removal would allow peace between Lebanon and Isreal.

Spoken like a -SNIP- hence the term -SNIP-.

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[edit on Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:51:47 -0500 by MemoryShock]

reply to post by masonwatcher

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To imagine people using their own as human shields defies reason, is an illogical allegation and is contrary to self defence. What is the point of defending yourself against Israeli aggression if you are going to stuff your own people into the jaws of the invader.

Good Point, so lets explore it. It has been shown over and over that it does happen, so why?

Insurgents in Iraq did the same thing! They didn't care about the Iraqi people, they were just there to fight the Western troops!

Nobody has really defined what a Palestinian is, but it certainly is not Hezbollah! They don't mind using civilians, because they are not fighting FOR anything, they are only fighting AGAINST Israel!

The true Palestinian people are scattered among several countries, and are victimized from all sides. They are not the ones lobbing rockets across the border or throwing their kids in front of tanks.

Do Civilians die in war? YES! Do modern weaponized armies target civilians? NO WAY! As you say, it is illogical and it defies reason. It brings moral retribution from the world community, it propogates hate and resistance in your foe, it doesn't serve to weaken the opposing military, so it is a bad strategy.

Who uses civilians? Guerrillas! Insurgents! Mercenaries! People with no loyalty and no emotional involvement. Hezbollah is the monster here!

Originally posted by masonwatcher
reply to post by mrmonsoon

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This is what Hezbolla brings on to the civillians of Lebanon.

It was not Hisbullah that bombed villages on the border with Syria at the other end of the country but Israel. It was Israel that bombed the intersections of congested roads, residential neighbourhoods, power plants and petroleum storage depots.

They hide behind civillians and fire wepons in the hope that the "counter" attack kills or injures civillians.

That is just continuation of zionist propaganda. It is also what Israeli soldiers have been recorded on video doing as a matter of course with civilians they capture.

To imagine people using their own as human shields defies reason, is an illogical allegation and is contrary to self defence. What is the point of defending yourself against Israeli aggression if you are going to stuff your own people into the jaws of the invader.

They are less than animals and their complete removal would allow peace between Lebanon and Isreal.

Spoken like a Nazi hence the term 'zionazi'.

ok, we will , as usual, have to do a fact check for this post.

Where as Hezbolla did not bomb too many villiages, some of their rockets did fall short and bomb lebonize villiages.
(So that point is wrong, I will credit you with error insted of hoax like your previous post)
that said, it WAS the kidnapping of Isrealies and the Rocket attacks by Hezbolla that caused the "COUNTER ATTACKS" on lebanon.
( so we have it that Hezbolla "DID" in fact cause all the villiages in Lebanon to be attacked, by their weapons and the counter attacks to hezbolla weapons fired at Isreal.

So, we have fact that Hezbolla is complety 100% guity of starting the war and for any and all fdamge due to it.

ok, on to Masons next point:
""You can insist that Israel has the right of the collective punishment of the people of countries it choices to invade but it is up to others to designate it as a terrorist state. "
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As usual, wrong and a TAC violation as I never said that

I "DO" say Isreal has every right to "counter" attack other countries and their terrorist organizations.
So, yes, I agree with you, for every mortar/rocket fired from terrorists, it is perfectly acceptable to counter attack that loaction/trerrorists/equipment.

It seems by what you write, that you feel it is ok for terrorists to attack but wrong to counter attack the terrorists?
(That is a direct, specific question that need only a yes or no answer from you)

"That is just continuation of zionist propaganda. It is also what Israeli soldiers have been recorded on video doing as a matter of course with civilians they capture."

So the post is zionst propaganda, TAC violating pesonal attack, as well as a knowing lie-a banable offence.

'Spoken like a Nazi hence the term 'zionazi'."
Again with TAC violating Personal attacks and lies- a bad habit with you Mason

"To imagine people using their own as human shields defies reason, is an illogical allegation and is contrary to self defence. What is the point of defending yourself against Israeli aggression if you are going to stuff your own people into the jaws of the invader."

I actually agree with you on this one idea. It is truely sick that the hezbolla terrorists hide behind civillians without any reguard to their property/safety-true the action of sick animals.

reply to post by FlyersFan

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It's only a matter of time before this kicks off again...... 'there will never be peace in the middle east' as long as there are different sections, factions, groups, religions there will not be peace......

reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist

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Think about it this way, if hezbolla really wanted peace would they be gathering more and more terrorist weapons and placing them on the border-sounds like palns for an attack, not peace, eh?

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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If I were A Palestinian.....and my buddy farmers had their land taken, my family destroyed, my borders all fenced in, my supplies dwindling....yeah, i would start stockpiling weapons too. The US has been funding a terrorist nation, no doubt about it.

reply to post by FlyersFan

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Didn't you already get pwnt on here for saying that the palestinians started the latest gaza war? Lol, yet you come back here and continue spouting your antisemitic hatred of the palestinians. No palestinians have starved? I guess humans can learn to live on grass then.

Originally posted by mpriebe81
reply to post by mrmonsoon

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If I were A Palestinian.....and my buddy farmers had their land taken, my family destroyed, my borders all fenced in, my supplies dwindling....yeah, i would start stockpiling weapons too. The US has been funding a terrorist nation, no doubt about it.

So you are starving, your supplies are dwindling, you are fenced in, you family destroyed, but you are still able to amass 40,000 ROCKETS!???!

Not a very good fence I guess?

Supplies don't seem to be too short either?

I guess you have to have priorities! Buy more rockets and keep badgering the bear, or rebuild my home and amass some food instead? Teach my children about peace, or show them videos immortalizing suicide bombers? Nice Priorities there!

reply to post by getreadyalready

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We al know the military supplies come from their masters, Iran and Syria.

They also have been gettiong their hands on Russian weapons.

Has it occured to you that if the gazan's had not attacked Isreal on a daily basis, they would not be locked in.

Has it ocured to you that if the Gazan's were not doing sucide bombing of civillians, they would not have been locked out if Isreal?

(we all know as soon as they were kept out, the sucide bombing ended, so clearly it worked.)

Has it occured to YOU that Isreal will now probably need to start a war to get rid of these weapons/terrorists on the border.

Perhaps if they worked on getting anyth9ing but weapons/bombs and such, they would not be starving.

Perhaps if their freely elected government terrorists did not attack, they would not be starving now.

Lets be realistic now, eh.

How many countries would allow it's neighbor/emeny/terrorist group to ammas over 40,000 rockets on your border????

No one, thats who!!!!!!!!!!

[edit on 8/5/2009 by mrmonsoon]

reply to post by getreadyalready

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It's easy to preach nonviolence when you're sitting in safety behind a computer, but when israelis come and bulldoze your homes for no reason, brag about how many of your kids they killed, and then white phosphorus your family, I bet you'd think differently.

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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Exactly! See my earlier 40,000 rock post, LOL!

It amazes me that all the pro-Palestinians are claiming how hard things are, and how people are starving, but they are still able to come up with all these expensive weapons?

It also amazes me that the fighting is actually Hezbollah vs. Israel! Not Palestinians. They are the poster children for the "Wipe Israel off the map" movement in the middle east.

Nobody is coming out praising Hezbollah. They only say poor Palestinians and Evil Israel? These are not "fundamentalists" they are mercenaries targeting Israel on the payroll of Iran and others, and they are doing as much harm to the Palestinians as Israel is!

So who is the real enemy here? Who are dradles, and dzonatas, and sancho really siding with, and who are they really against?

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