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The MSM working together to discredit Obamacare protesters.

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posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 06:28 AM
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The MSM is working over time trying to discredit and dismiss Obamacare protesters. You'll remember they did the same with the tea party protests. In fact, it seems any protest against democrats or Obama is attacked by the media. Quite a shift from their support of the illegal aliens marches, anti-war marches and just about any left wing cause you can think of.

Our media is nothing but the propaganda wing of the Democrat party. That goes for every network but Fox. Do not beleive anything they say. Its all meant to either sell Obama policies, or attack his critics.

On ABC news last night:

ABC: Town Hall Wrath at ObamaCare 'Appears to Be Orchestrated'

ABC framed its Tuesday night story, on citizens using town hall forums held by Members of Congress to express opposition to ObamaCare, around undermining their credibility by asserting the reaction “appears to be orchestrated” and “organized” and thus is forcing the victimized “White House to push back” by “fighting Internet fire with fire.”

After anchor Charles Gibson insisted “some of that criticism appears to be orchestrated, causing the White House to push back,” reporter Jake Tapper showed some instances of “people protesting health care reform with visceral anger” and relayed how “Texas Democrat Lloyd Doggett, who was shouted down before he could even speak, says there's nothing authentic about these protests.” Doggett charged: “This notion of a grassroots campaign is totally and completely phony. The Republican Party has coordinated this apparent outrage and stirred it up.” Tapper corroborated: “Clearly, some of it is organized.”



What are they saying? That all left wing protests just sprout up from the ground? Of course there is some organization! Thats how EVERY single protest ever has been! Yet here we have Obama media lying and spinning to desperately help their dear leader.

Matthews Joins Barbara Boxer in Dismissing 'Brooks Brothers' Protestors



Chris Matthews, on Tuesday's "Hardball," invited on California Senator Barbara Boxer to dismiss the increasing number of townhall protestors opposed to Obama's liberal agenda as the "angry, and "noisy," "well-dressed middle-class people in pinks and limes...Brooks Brothers Brigade." After playing brief clips from the townhall protests Matthews devoted the first half of his show to knocking down their legitimacy, something Boxer actually instructed Matthews to do, as she urged the MSNBC host: "You, you in the media have to take a look at what's going on here. This is all planned. It's to hurt our president and it's to change the Congress." To which Matthews suggested the grassroots revolt should be ignored, as he depicted the protestors as stooges of the health care industry.



Notice how the Democrats and media are coordinating this assault on live tv! They don't even try to hide it anymore. There is more, but I'm waiting on video from the other networks. Every single one of them is pushing this line.


[edit on 5-8-2009 by Wimbly]




posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 06:36 AM
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This is exactly what I thought would happen. The people stand up for themselves and the gov't says, "its orchestrated".

Of course it is! This is a setup from all republicans!


YEAH> BLAME IT ON A POLITICAL PARTY! How stupid is the media?

I am amazed at how blatantly ignorant some people are. And stupid.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 06:40 AM
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Whats hilarious is that Obama told his supporters to go out and do what the MSM is saying is illegitimate with these protesters. Once again, there seems to be one set of rules for liberals and another for everyone else.




If this doesn't show you how underhanded and evil our MSM is, nothing will.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 06:48 AM
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I guess we all see only what we want to see. There is plenty of media that is against "Obamacare". It is pretty easy to see the manipulation behind many of these protests. Most likely, you will not allow yourself to see it though.

Do you honestly think that these billion dollar companies that stand to lose the most in this situation are just sitting idly bye, hoping that everything just works itself out? Do you think they care what the people think? You can bet the farm that they are going to do anything and everything they can to undermine "Obamacare". And yes, that includes manipulating protests and people.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 06:59 AM
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Manipulation? How is this manipulation any different that Obama telling his supporters to "get in people's faces" and "argue with them"? Are you telling me that every left wing protest is free of manipulation and organization?

Also, what media do you see against Obamacare? I'm a journalist and media junky, so I'm quite informed. I have no idea what media you're talking about, other than maybe Fox. Thats one network against 12 shamelessly shilling for Obama.

[edit on 5-8-2009 by Wimbly]



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 07:07 AM
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I didn't say anything about Obama or what he is telling people to do. You said that there is no manipulation, I said that there is. I don't even watch the MSM, and I have seen far more anti-Obamacare news clips, links, etc floating around than I have seen pro.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 07:30 AM
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Turn on MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC or PBS at any given time. I mean really, you cant be serious?

Also, I didn't say there was no manipulation. I said there was as much manipulation as there is in any democrat/liberal protest. The only difference is the MSM makes a point to discredit the right wing protests with this excuse, while ignoring it on their own side. Much like you're doing now.

Unless you saw a weeks worth of MSM stories attacking Obama for suggesting his supporters go out and get in people's faces? I'm pretty much constantly watching the media and I never saw it.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 07:36 AM
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The only difference is the MSM makes a point to discredit the right wing protests with this excuse, while ignoring it on their own side. Much like you're doing now.


At what point did I choose sides? You are blinded by your own outrage here. I don't have a side. I see that your movement is being funded and manipulated by major corporations that stand to lose a lot of money.

My stance is that it doesn't matter which side wins here. If your side wins, we get stuck playing the same game we've been playing. If Obama care passes, I don't see things getting better either. I am sure that the bill will get watered down to the point that there will be no real change. Either way, the people are screwed.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 08:02 AM
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At what point did I choose sides?



I guess we all see only what we want to see.


You tell me when the media went after Democrat protesters, called them extreme nutcases or marginalized them as paid for. Go ahead and show me one example of it happening. Show me when Chris Mathews attacked Obama for instigating "angry mobs" against those who don't agree with him.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 08:33 AM
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Wow, this is good really good. Bo's shoving all this garbage down our throats; the stimulus package, cap & trade/tax, socialized medicine err national health care. And yet we're not supposed to voice an opinion against this garbage?



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 08:36 AM
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Enjoy your pointless outrage man. [sarcasm]The world is against you and your cause. It is a vast conspiracy to oppress the the beacon of honesty and integrity known as the poor beleaguered republican party. Rise above man, rise above.[/sarcasm]


Honestly, threads like this make it really easy to dislike your movement. I am not a fan of the democrats but you guys really make it too easy. And yes, I am sure this will help to strengthen your resolve, but so be it.


Yet another reminder of why I miss above politics.





posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 08:48 AM
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Honestly, threads like this make it really easy to dislike your movement. I am not a fan of the democrats but you guys really make it too easy. And yes, I am sure this will help to strengthen your resolve, but so be it.


What movement is that?

Notice how you resort to insults, because you have no way of showing me any proof that the media went after left wing protesters in this way. You cant show me a single report when the media causes Obama of instigating "angry mobs". Well, I can provide proof of my case.

Chris Mathews calls anti-Obama care protesters "Right wing extremeists"









I can produce many, many more. Can you produce a single clip from the MSM, that shows them attacking left wing protesters in the same way, or going after Obama as an instigator of "angry mobs"?


[edit on 5-8-2009 by Wimbly]



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 09:12 AM
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You just have to watch Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert these days, they're doing the exact same thing. Everyone opposing Obama or his health care plan in any way, shape or form is a bitter Republican taking their instructions from FOX News and Rush Limbaugh. I've been watching these shows for a few years pretty regularly, but lately it has become almost unbearable.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 09:16 AM
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you know what i've noticed that those two shows are extremely liberal. I'd expect it from stewart, but colbert too? Colbert cannot compliment any ideal of the right without lacing it with sarcasm, almost as if he is afraid.

It used to be that one was left leaning and the other right, or so it seemed to me, and i'd get my laughs at the expense of both sides. Now, those in the right are almost exclusively ridiculed and i'm wondering why this is taking place....I mean, there are plenty of things to ridicule on both sides.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 09:23 AM
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Colbert's purpose has always been to play the clueless conservative who spouts crazy # and believes it. Its never been a show for "the right". Both shows are nothing more than propaganda for the left.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by heyo
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you know what i've noticed that those two shows are extremely liberal. I'd expect it from stewart, but colbert too? Colbert cannot compliment any ideal of the right without lacing it with sarcasm, almost as if he is afraid.

It used to be that one was left leaning and the other right, or so it seemed to me, and i'd get my laughs at the expense of both sides. Now, those in the right are almost exclusively ridiculed and i'm wondering why this is taking place....I mean, there are plenty of things to ridicule on both sides.



They have both always been extremely liberal, both admitted on air to crying during Obama's victory speech...and Colbert was a liberal long long before then. I can't bare to watch Colbert anymore, I watch Conan instead, Stewart still gets my viewing, but a lot of what he says is obviously nonsensical.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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This is merely Chicago Democratic Machine politics being played out on a National level. They trained Obama and most of his advisors so it is what I would expect.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 07:11 PM
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I love how Boxer says, "The last time I was confronted by well dressed people protesting was in Florida. What is she saying, if you are well dressed and protesting there must be a hidden agenda? Boxer is absolutely nuts! Unfortunately, her and Pelosi are from my broken State.



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