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Very weird : Nazi officer saved rebbe at request of US

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posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 03:43 AM

Admiral Canaris, commander of the Nazi Abwehr, or intelligence, had a central role in securing Schneerson's escape from the Warsaw Ghetto along with members of Schneerson's family and entourage, said Yosef Kaminetzky, a writer who recently completed a book on the escape story. Kaminetzky, along with Kfar Chabad secretary Rabbi Binyamin Lip#z sent a letter of request to Yad Vashem to consider Canaris as a candidate for righteous gentile status.

Some aspects of WWII are really weird.

It would be interesting, I think, to go deeper into the LOUBAWICH group, somehow opposed to the zionists.

I read somewhere that some jews were in fact ARYANS.

Does this explain that ?

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 03:50 AM
reply to post by orkson

Hitler hated Jews and he loved Aryans.

Aryans were apparently blonde and blue-eyed (unless that is just another lie...).

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 03:54 AM
I believe as the article states that Admiral Canaris was:

a good man trapped in a bad situation. He did what he could and eventually paid with his life for doing it.

If he believed that Nazi endeavours were immoral, how best to work against them then to be among them? Or perhaps he simply had a change of heart. I do not believe that there has to be a motive other than a sense of karma.

[edit on 5-8-2009 by Oscitate]

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 03:56 AM
It is nice to know that there are good people to be found in even the worst of times.

However, I do find it rather demeaning, condescending, and arrogant to say things like this "to consider Canaris as a candidate for righteous gentile status"

So how ironic is this?

Seems like everyone has a "superiority complex" and thinks they are innately better than others.

I find the term "gentile" equally as offensive as any negative term towards Jews. They are both negative and condescending.

Why cant he be remembered as a righteous human being? Instead they have to go throwing around racial slurs. Sigh...

Maybe one day humans can treat each other as complete equals, rather than pretending they are all different.

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 04:11 AM
reply to post by orkson

Maybe he was Schindler, of Schindler's List.

I am sure there were Nazi officers who did not like what they were doing, but that were all scared of Hitler. Why????

How does some maniac from Austria take over Germany? I really want to know.

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 04:32 AM
reply to post by spellbound

I think they were afraid of him because he made quite the reputation of killing anyone who opposed him.

Remember what he did to Rommel?

Hitler's inner circle were fiercely loyal to him, because they wielded a lot of power themselves, and had access to pretty much all of the wealth they desired.

People were not necessarily afraid of Hitler himself, they were probably far more afraid of the brainwashed masses that empowered Hitler in the first place. Especially the SS.

Who wasn't afraid of the SS? They were brutal and sadistic, and their reputation grew quickly.

So the many brave people who did resist Hitler were forced to do it in secret and keep their activities hidden, from what I can tell.

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 04:35 AM
reply to post by muzzleflash

If they had all stood up to him at the time, it would never have happened.

Which is why we should stand up for things in our own time.

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 05:17 AM
An interesting insight in operation "Walkyrie" and the ties of CANARIS with it : Walkyrie

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 05:24 AM
reply to post by orkson

Yes! And we, the people, have the power.

Stand up!

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 05:32 AM
reply to post by spellbound

Easy, Austria and Germany have common ancestry and propaganda enforced this.
If you want to rally the people all you have to do is tell them what they want to hear (you are superior!) and prove your loyalty to them!
Reichstag fire, Polish invasion... false flags (in my opinion at least) to show that the Nazis cared only about defence of the people from those crazy Poles and commies.

Everything the nazis did is pretty much template of psychological warfare. Im writing a piece on it may interest you. Its very easy.

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 05:58 AM
Maybe we should all be asking our selves, what if the nazi's weren't the bad guys, and only this horrendous anti-german propaganda has changed our perception of them as evil. If you look at their policies they had quite a very good ideology. They introduced the first compulsory holiday for workers 2 weeks a year (unheard of in those times), they greatley moralised the german people, cleaned up crime and corruption and made germany a great society. The national income increased by 40% and the cost of living only went up by 4%. Hitler did not hate the )ews, he only became )ew wise. Why else was it that it was inface a )ew who founded the SS (a fact not well known) or that there was over 100,000 )ews in the army. and that 1939 alot of )ews put Hitler up for the nobel peace prize ? a little odd don't you think

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 06:46 AM
Ummm so is it my vivid imagination or did he not have something called T4 euthanising the mentally challenged... including 'idiocy' as a mental deficiency...

I know as well as anyone who has been in the military your group is only as good as the weakest member... doesnt mean you kill them

posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 06:59 AM
I have noticed a trend, over the last few years especially, to label anything and anybody from 1930-1940's Germany as "Nazi". Why is this?

Are all Jews Zionists? Are all Americans dumb fat burger eating invasion monkeys etc....etc....

I wonder if this too is some deliberate move by the media to demonise everything German from that period in time? Not all Germans were Nazis and not all Jews were rounded up for internment. There is a lot of very strange stuff that contradicts officialdom from that period, not the sort of stuff they teach in schools either!

posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 03:02 AM
reply to post by fapython

All of that stuff you listed is negated by the people that he killed, which included homosexuals, gypsies and the disabled. It wasn't just Jews that perished. Anyone that advocates that the disabled be sterilized or killed is automatically on my # list.

posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 01:32 PM

Originally posted by orkson
I read somewhere that some jews were in fact ARYANS.

As the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language states at the beginning of its definition, "[it] is one of the ironies of history that Aryan, a word nowadays referring to the blond-haired, blue-eyed physical ideal of Nazi Germany, originally referred to a people who looked vastly different. Its history starts with the ancient Indo-Iranians, peoples who inhabited parts of what are now Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India."

National Socialists weren't good at history, apparently.


posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 03:03 PM
To my knowledge submarines commanded by masons wouldn't shoot at allied ships commanded by the same and similiar.

Besides Hitler was persecuting masons as he was jews, liberals, communists, roma, slavs and basicly anyone who didn't fit into his nazi-aryan world. The old fart really belived the all the lesser races as he called them were commanded by the masons and jews to destroy the aryan one. So ofcourse masons would help masons.

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 03:10 PM
reply to post by orkson

You might like this book about the inflitration of Nazi spies into Europe and the United States during WWII.

The Game of the Foxes: The Untold Story of German Espionage in the United States and Great Britain During World War II

It speaks on as well the interals battles between Admiral Canaris and Reinhard Gehlen for control of the Abwehr.

I found it a rather interesting story about how the spies were sent out and caught, and as well the Double X system.

[edit on 20-8-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 06:31 AM
Hitler was upset that so much local power had been lost to the international bankers like Rothschild who had a nice lock on Germany/France/Britain. He saw clearly what needed to be done. He did it. Many Germans loved being on the winning team. If you lived in Germany you probably would have loved it. I live in America and I really love our military supremacy.

If the movie Valkyrie can be believed, then we have to understand that there were many Jews in the German military organization. They and other leftist types and sympathizers tried many times to kill Hitler and take over everything that Hitler had taken over. They wanted to control Berlin and everything else that had been grabbed by Hitler. They wanted to grab control of these European countries before the Allies could defeat Hitler. Then they wanted to negotiate with the Allies on their terms.

There are two ways of looking at this...

Option One, that Hitler really did get the jump on Europe with technology and determination. He disliked the way Jews were controlling Germany's destiny politically, socially and financially, and he convinced others to take a stand with him against the enemy. They did a good job of it. They had a pretty good run. They quickly made trouble for the Jewish bankers in Germany, France and Britain.

Option Two, that Zionists empowered Hitler to get the jump on Europe for them, so that they could use Europe as a base for world military supremacy, but then the Allies, and mainly Americans, set things straight again.

Option Two is a little difficult to imagine even for a conspiracy type like myself. The reason is that Jewish scientists helped America with some nuclear technology. Smart Germans defected and came to America to help in the fight against Hitler. So this is why I mainly go with option One. Jews at that time were satisfied to control business and banking. They would not want to be so militant at that time. Their strategy would be more stealthy like a cold war. They wouldn't want to get warmed up just yet.

I think Hitler was upset by outsiders messing with German politics, society and finance, and this drove him to take care of business. I think the Germans were so successful at first that they tried to expand too quickly. They bit off more than they could chew. Once they started air and sea surveillance of the United States they had really gone too far. If they had just stayed in Europe and consolidated they may have had a chance of controlling a ''united'' Europe and interfacing with the rest of the world on those terms. But no, they went too far, too fast.

I know some people believe that America is being used by the Jewish Zionists as a source of military power, sort of like Option Two above. I don't believe that. I believe there is a more sinister reality, something closer to Hitler in the shadows of Rome. America certainly grabbed all the German brainpower it could, at least the ones that didn't slip into Russia. We can imagine who those were.

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