Obama goes further in hiding administration secrets!

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posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 11:42 PM
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A Supreme Court filing from the Obama administration last month has set off alarm bells on the left.

The filing was a friend-of-the-court brief, and it mostly dealt with an excruciatingly technical question about the attorney-client privilege. But its last five pages were about the state secrets privilege, which was not at issue in the case. That privilege, a favorite tool of the Bush administration, allows the government to shut down lawsuits by invoking national security.

The Obama administration’s brief argued, though no one had asked, that the state secrets privilege was rooted in the Constitution.

The federal government files friend-of-the-court briefs in the Supreme Court all the time, and it is not unusual for it to alert the court to related issues, usually to make sure that the court’s ruling is no broader than it needs to be.

But the filing has raised eyebrows and suspicions among liberals already disappointed that the Obama administration has not rejected a number of legal doctrines associated with the Bush administration.

Jon B. Eisenberg, a lawyer for an Islamic charity in Oregon, said the filing reflected “the good old Bush-Cheney inherent presidential power theory.” Mr. Eisenberg said he suspected that the administration was hoping to use the attorney-client case to invite the Supreme Court to say something helpful to it about state secrets.

Mathew A. Miller, a Justice Department spokesman, said there was no reason for concern.

“The brief says only that the state secrets privilege, along with other governmental privileges, has a constitutional basis,” Mr. Miller said, “which is a position that has been taken by the Department of Justice for many decades under administrations of both parties.”

On the campaign trail and in more recent statements, President Obama has indicated that he wants to limit the use of the state secrets privilege. In courtrooms, however, there has been little evidence of a new approach.


Full article at New York Times here

The fact that he constantly throws Bush under the bus for all the problems we are facing after he came into office is fine by me, I know bush caused most of the problems we are dealing with now. What I cannot tolerate is the fact that this administration is going above and beyond what is normal to hide and conceal things from the people of the United States.

Obama has said he believes in a transparent goverment. Why doesn't he practice it? The state secrets privilege does not need to be used by Obama for any reason and is something he openly critized bush about.

[edit on 4-8-2009 by Helious]




posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:04 AM
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Everybody hides things, only difference is that what most of us are hiding doesn't have anything to do with national security.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:18 AM
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No way?!

The guy who sealed all of his school applications and records is also concealing what he does in office??

How come no one saw this coming?!



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:47 AM
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Im staying away from the BC issue for now. This is about saying one thing and obviously and willfully doing another.

Slamming Bush for something then turning around and doing the same thing is a slap in the face, not matter if your on the right side or left side something shouldn't seem right about this.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by Helious
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Im staying away from the BC issue for now. This is about saying one thing and obviously and willfully doing another.

Slamming Bush for something then turning around and doing the same thing is a slap in the face, not matter if your on the right side or left side something shouldn't seem right about this.



I didn't mention the BC either, just facts that everyone knows about him sealing records.

Didn't mean to get away from him doing this though, just showing that if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, that it's probably a duck.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 01:06 AM
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So, in other words, this is tangible evindence too all those in congress, peticularly on the left wing...yuode think it would ring bells! This guy (obama) is a luar and tearing up the constitution in front of thier very eyes...while they choose to stand an wtiness it. God knows what the hell congress is thinking.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 01:15 AM
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This is apparantly one of those "grey" Consitutional issues that the POTUS can manipulate when hiding behind the curtain of national security.

Bush used it to conceal information from Congress and the public, to manipulate those who would oppose his agenda.

Increasingly, I see no difference in left or right thinking these days. Two sides of the same coin using the same tricks to hide the true agenda.

Only difference between Obama and Bush is the terrible truth Obama is hiding that probably trumps anything the Bush administration had in store.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 02:16 AM
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Bush, Obama and McCain are all the same!





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