posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:41 PM
reply to post by OmegaLogos
Explanation: Time dilation only appears when you put your POV seperate from the particle being acted upon because from the POV of the particle being
acted upon time passes normally. GR is only relevent when veiwing the whole picture where as this discussion is deep within the realms of QM so I
would posit that you are veiwing the hypothesis from an invalid scale i.e globally where as a valid POV would be more local and internal to the
particle and the blackhole!
Particles are seen to be subject to relativistic effects. Muons created by cosmic ray interaction the upper atmosphere that would under classical
mechanics not reach the surface can make it there due to time dialation effects (or from the POV of the muon, length contraction of the
The frame of reference in a black hole is not inertial but accelerated and clocks run more slowly for everything "deeper" in the gravitational
Now from a frame of reference falling into the event horizon, the trip would appear to happen very quickly while from outside, whatever is falling in
appears to freeze and fade away. Processes inside where space is infinitely curved (or very highly so) would appear to be frozen (or very nearly) from
I'm suggesting that a singularity never forms in the first place before a black hole evaporates, either from the inside or outside reference. The
finite lifetime prevents the actual creation of infinite density.
Slightly off topic but I noticed that when the info for the CMB map was 1st displayed that it looked homogenous and isotropic which fully
supports GR but then the technician turned up the CONTRAST IN SCALE i.e a change in POV, and suddenly the inhomogenities and anisotropics became fully
apparent and QM was vindicated! Hmmmm?
And you see quantum effects stretched to grand scales by spacetime expansion. The contrast in scale in nothing more than amplification of one range of
inputs to a wider domain of outputs by greater instrument sensitivity than initial measurements.
Personal Disclosure: Thanks for the info on frame dragging as I was totally unaware of such taking place but could you please elaborate as to
how this frame dragging either enhances the hypothesis or puts the kybosh on it. Technical details are most welcome!
I'm supposing that the frame dragging of circulating bosons would prevent the curvature from "straightening out". The energy cannot leave suddenly
as the escape velocity is too high anyway. You have to wait for it to bubble back out.
Beh, I suppose I'm arguing the same basic outcome (no singularity) for a different reason-- time dilation along with Hawking radiation.
So what was the point?