Originally posted by MOFreemason
The spin doctors continue at work!

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And how could you possibly know whether or not they're misinformed? I've read portions of the healthcare bill, and if there was a town hall meeting being held anywhere near me, I'd be there doing the same thing these people are.

You just assume that they have no motivation to go and protest the healthcare reform bill other than someone telling them to do it?

Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), chairman of the NRCC, has endorsed the strategy, telling the Politico the days of civil town halls are now “over.”

Originally posted by canihavemyvoteback
reply to post by soldiermom

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And how could you possibly know whether or not they're misinformed? I've read portions of the healthcare bill, and if there was a town hall meeting being held anywhere near me, I'd be there doing the same thing these people are.

Beacause there is more than one bill for healthcare reform including, HR 2520, HR 3200, S 1099, and HR 676. So if you have read the healthcare bill, which one did you read? because that may not be the one that actually passes. So people you go to town hall to yell and scream about healthcare when they or you or me, does not know what is the final bill, BECAUSE THERE IS NO FINAL BILL.


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-I said I've read portions of the bill/bills that have been posted here on ATS. However little I've read, it's more than the clowns on the hill have read by their own admission.

You just assume that they have no motivation to go and protest the healthcare reform bill other than someone telling them to do it?

Your assuming that I'm assuming. Care to give your thoughts on the leaked memo stating that people are to be loud and disruptive and to not have an intelligent debate? That is why I assume these people are not smart, because their playbook tells them not to be. I'm not at all saying that ALL people who go to towns halls are stupid. In fact I am going to a town hall in my town next week. My point is that all these so called grass roots towns hall meetings that have been conveniently caught on tape with people singing god bless america, are organized by corporate lobbying groups. So don't be used is all im trying to say.

-I read the memo. Is it a horrible way to try and get your point across? Maybe. But I don't think all the people there are playing by this rulebook. Both sides, democrats and republicans, have their tactics. This is not anything new by either party, so this memo, to me anyway, is a moot point. Your source is not exactly unbiased.

Also my link to think progress will show you this statement

Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), chairman of the NRCC, has endorsed the strategy, telling the Politico the days of civil town halls are now “over.”

How do you expect our legislators to take us seriously with a strategy like that. If your serious about change you will kick these disruptors out and have a serious debate with tough questions, otherwise your district will only come off as a bunch of loons. Why would you want people in YOUR town hall that have been bused in from other parts of the country.

"I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration."

Originally posted by soldiermom

Originally posted by canihavemyvoteback
reply to post by soldiermom

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I guess Hillary Clinton thought she and the thousands of dissenters during the Bush administration were to be taken seriously. She said:

"I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration."

www.associatedcontent.com...

How is what the people do at these town hall meetings any different?

There is a difference between having an intelligent debate while disagreeing and being an angry disruptive mob who act like their about to burn a witch at the stake. Is that the intelligence level this country has sunk to?

There's nothing wrong with those tactics you say??

In 1921 Adolf Hitler formed his own private army called Sturm Abteilung (Storm Section). The SA (also known as stormtroopers or brownshirts) were instructed to disrupt the meetings of political opponents and to protect Hitler from revenge attacks. Captain Ernst Roehm of the Bavarian Army played an important role in recruiting these men, and became the SA's first leader.

www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk...

Originally posted by canihavemyvoteback
reply to post by soldiermom

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And how could you possibly know whether or not they're misinformed? I've read portions of the healthcare bill, and if there was a town hall meeting being held anywhere near me, I'd be there doing the same thing these people are.

Beacause there is more than one bill for healthcare reform including, HR 2520, HR 3200, S 1099, and HR 676. So if you have read the healthcare bill, which one did you read? because that may not be the one that actually passes. So people you go to town hall to yell and scream about healthcare when they or you or me, does not know what is the final bill, BECAUSE THERE IS NO FINAL BILL.


www.ncsl.org...

You just assume that they have no motivation to go and protest the healthcare reform bill other than someone telling them to do it?

Your assuming that I'm assuming. Care to give your thoughts on the leaked memo stating that people are to be loud and disruptive and to not have an intelligent debate? That is why I assume these people are not smart, because their playbook tells them not to be. I'm not at all saying that ALL people who go to towns halls are stupid. In fact I am going to a town hall in my town next week. My point is that all these so called grass roots towns hall meetings that have been conveniently caught on tape with people singing god bless america, are organized by corporate lobbying groups. So don't be used is all im trying to say.

Also my link to think progress will show you this statement

Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), chairman of the NRCC, has endorsed the strategy, telling the Politico the days of civil town halls are now “over.”

How do you expect our legislators to take us seriously with a strategy like that. If your serious about change you will kick these disruptors out and have a serious debate with tough questions, otherwise your district will only come off as a bunch of loons. Why would you want people in YOUR town hall that have been bused in from other parts of the country.