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Originally posted by km1550
reply to post by jsobecky
That's being disingenuous.
Originally posted by km1550
reply to post by jsobecky
Because you're making an issue out of something that's just not there.
Originally posted by arcnaver
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Couldn't get the embed to work right, sorry.
Originally posted by km1550
reply to post by Bugsmasher
"We have the best hospitals and health care in the world..."
That is nonsense, and you have no ability to substantiate such nonsense.
Tell me then, why are people dying because they can't afford coverage?
Originally posted by km1550
reply to post by Bugsmasher
"We have the best hospitals and health care in the world..."
That is nonsense, and you have no ability to substantiate such nonsense. Tell me then, why are people dying because they can't afford coverage?
Are you a republican, or do you work in the health/pharma industry?
Asking about health/pharma connections I can see...why would you ask if this person is a Republican?...what's that got to do with it? Being a conservative is not against the law you know...stop with the labels, if you have info that is germane to the discussion, Great!!, please continue...but the labels, from everybody are getting old...
Labels divide us, keep us at odds with one another...this is about the direction our govt. is going...we are allowed to question this, as it affects us all.
Originally posted by Wimbly
reply to post by suicydking
My friend would ask me if I knew about these "facts". I would eventually get him to do some research and discover the real facts. The point is, there are large groups of people who already have their perceptions of something, and when shown information that matches their perception, will show it to as many people as possible, regardless of weather or not it's actually true.
8 years of these tactics against Bush/Republicans and the only example you can come up with is your friend getting emails about BO? Are you serious? Have you forgotten the never ending Bush/Cheany conspiracies over the last 8 years? Many in the media STILL perpetuate these myths!
Then, I watched the video and heard Obama say that would happen if we didn't pass a health care reform bill. See, I was addressing how reality is working contrary to what Wimbly posted, and it seems that even you have ignored that fact when replying to me.
I think you're confused. Hes specifically addressed Jake's question about BO's plan and how it would force people off their private insurance. Obama responds and claims that its not actually the government that will force people, but the employers. Hes blaming the employers for getting rid of private HC, when its BO's plan that will push them in doing so. Which is right in line wit what Obama has said in the past about getting rid of private health care over time.
[edit on 5-8-2009 by Wimbly]