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The ministry of truth has been founded. flag@whitehouse.gov

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posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 11:59 PM
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reply to post by mikerussellus
 

I'm at work, so they don't get my home ISP anyway. I just tried again, and get the IE can't display this page message.
I really don't care if they know who I am anyway. I am not afraid of the government. And I intend, in a peaceful, non-violent way, to make them very afraid of me.
Good luck guys!




posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:38 AM
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wow!

great find OP.

S&F!



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by Gorman91


So, is this the precedent for the ministry of truth? What do you all think?


It's looking like it. Scouring the internet is work the government could easily afford, but I get the feeling there would be more public outcry from the government itself determining truth than the citizens having a part in it. Once you bring the average Joe into policing the truth, they take ownership and responsibility of the proccess, meaning it is much harder to attack for dissenters like us. Disgusting, and totally calculated. It's really a shame someone as brilliant a tactician as Obama happens to be playing for the other side.

Star and flag, though I'm starting to wonder why I S+F topics which are so damn depressing.



[edit on 5-8-2009 by Lazyninja]



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 01:06 AM
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Well remember what they said in The Great Escape. It is the sworn duty of every patriot that is a prisoner of war to aggravate and confuse the enemy to his greatest ability. In this war against personal freedoms, if we become prisoners to the spying eyes of unknown neighbors, then we must do our sworn duty as patriots to freedom to confuse and be a belligerent to the enemy, such as through that email.



[edit on 5-8-2009 by Gorman91]



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 02:15 AM
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Originally posted by Gorman91
flag@whitehouse.gov

Remember that. It's your new ministry of truth.


If it hasn't been reported already, now seems better than never. I quote and link you to what the white house blog states.




There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.


www.whitehouse.gov...

So, is this the precedent for the ministry of truth? What do you all think?

[edit on 4-8-2009 by Gorman91]


You read too much into your own political paranoia



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 02:39 AM
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Originally posted by badmedia
I say have a bit of fun with it.

Have someone email you the actual bill, and then forward it to them as fishy.



That made me LOL... I like your thinking.

I am not sure about my stance on the health care bill yet. But does this mean that if I am against it I have to be in fear of expressing my opinion? Oh dear, this is outragouse. Since when in America do we have to freakin fear our opinions. What are they going to do come and get me and lock me up? Have my life turned into a living hell with the power they have, would I be flagged as a terrorist? Geez I feel like we have been threatened to not buck the Obama system. Excuse me but W...T.....F?
So Obama has been in the White House less than a year and;

1. He fired a privately run corporation's CEO. Since when does the President of the US have the authority to hire and fire privately owned companies employees?
2. He bought out a large portion of a privately run corporation thus making it a government run operation.
3. He gave trillions of our tax dollars away to the wealthy that we will never have the privilege of benefiting from.
4. He is all about putting the Federal Reserve in charge of our financial system.
5. He has created a socialistic health care plan to further control America; of course the private insurance companies will be squeezed out eventually thus making government health care the only option for the American population. And with all his might he pushed as hard as he could to force this through as quickly as possible before anyone could make a fuss just like the stimulus.
6. We are now being intimidated into not talking out aloud or in writing about our opinions on his decisions? In fear we will be reported?

Well I hope all yall that wanted change are enjoying it and I hope you are still enjoying it in another year or so because this seems to be escalading. Can anyone spell Hitler for me?



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 03:07 AM
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Ministry Of Truth

''There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always—do not forget this, Winston—always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face ... for ever.''
—Part III, Chapter III

The Orwellian State appears to be here......


[edit on 05/08/09 by LiveForever8]



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 03:34 AM
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Here comes the roundup of thought criminals. All opposition will be eliminated. Why do you question the government, they are our gods, they are perfect in every way. They are above human nature. They're building up their spy network and soon everyone will fear everyone. The police state is here, folks, get out of denial.

I swear if someone would hand out 100 million copies of 1984, then people would see all the mind blowing similarities and wake up. It should be required reading in schools but of course it isn't, had to read it for myself.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 03:42 AM
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I couldn't agree more.
Im currently working on a thread i will post soon. Its about George Orwells Nineteen Eighty-Four and its similarities with the world today. Especially the "free" world.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 05:32 AM
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Just remember everyone, no-one likes a snitch.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 08:07 AM
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The white house is trying to do damage control..... they twist things to make them seem what they are not. Under obama care private insurance would be illegal in many cases and under obama care 88 million people would be forced out of their current coverage. These are not lies, these are facts.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by SPC_D
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Star for you friend I wonder what there response to any of will be? I wonder if we will have police knocking on our doors tomorrow lol






I send them crap like that all the time.

After I send them a letter calling them a bunch of criminals, the typical response is an auto-generated mass email reply stating the representative in question feels they know whats best for me and thanking me for writing them.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 10:20 AM
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God Bless America.


Im signing them up for some, umm, messages from certain internet sites...




[edit on 5-8-2009 by Copernicus]



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 10:41 AM
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Perhaps you could explain?



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 11:10 AM
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Screw the Congress and SCREW Obama!!!!!!!
I did hear this yesterday, and the more I thought about this, the more irritated I got.

So, I decided to send an email to the address at the whitehouse. I basically told them I didn't need their snitches to turn me and that I am exceptionally opposed to the health care plan. I further gave them my name and address (sort of the "courage of your convictions" thing)

I further told them that I would start some my own community organizing and do everything in my limited power to insure that the arrogant, pompous a-hole wouldn't be re-elected.

That's my two cents for what its worth.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 11:29 AM
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I always found it interesting that Obama identified with Lincoln...Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama seems quite intent on returning us all to the farms.

I can only hope that once all of us that hold different and diverse opinions are eliminated and America is of a singular, one mind, that it bites the power brokers hard in the ass when those drones learn the word "NO!" all at once.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Thanks for the email!



I'll be sure to relay any disinformation I find.



LOL

Yes He Will and Yes, He Can!

Happy BDay, Bro!


Can these punks in Washington be any more juvenile in their behavior?

These are forums where we're allowed to play unprofessionally in our little sandboxes. And we even get along Southern Guardian (even if he is mistaken on the facts sometimes mostly almost always.) To tattle on our friends & neighbors???

Maybe... We can always send them bogus info to keep them running in circles. What they do best. Dorks.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:24 PM
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Maybe... We can always send them bogus info to keep them running in circles. What they do best. Dorks.

All we need to do is point them to ATS, that will drive them nuts. Between the health care threads, and the Obama birth certificate threads, they won't have time to do anything else.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:29 PM
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I'm gonna report you all... NOT!




Well maybe just the 'Birthers' (Kidding, I'm kidding, really!
)

/Devil's_Advocate_Hat_On

(Case 1)
Let's say for the moment that this is what it appears to be; and there are people out there actually deliberately seeking to kill any kind of health care reform. Corporation X, starts a 'whisper campaign' or viral campaign against any form of reform; on the premise that it will keep them from losing customers and money. After all if the Health Care Reform works, why would people continue to pay in huge amounts of money monthly to a system that just gets fatter from it?

(Does that sound like rl or what???)

Then Morale Person Y, actually being a decent person sees something 'not quite kosher' with the Corp X, but has no venue for getting the word out. Or if you will fears for their life or censure or being fired etc.. So with a quick search on the web, they find this 'watch dog' site and they pass the info that way; safely.

Then the Government takes a hard look at Corp X, and they start following the money trail and or looking at where the people moving the 'whispers' are getting their information from. Since not all smoke leads to a fire and not infrequently to a smoke screen, with enough information coming in, and with some data mining (aka web/mail bots) they can home in on 'real threats.' Or quickly put out the smoke screens.

(Case 2)
On the other side of the coin, (which I may as well point out), such a service could be used for nefarious purposes. Say for example some nut job, gets a hold of the information and starts to use it in a 'gestapo'-like manner, setting up the whistle blowers as 'squeaky wheels' that need to be greased out of existence. Or they use it to create a 'secret service' state where you can't risk offending or trusting anyone one, or you end up as a subject of 'a email'. After which your life runs down hill really quickly....

(Case 3)
The Paranoid Nutters, Right & Left Wing Nut Jobs and so on, flood the 'watch dog' email box with spam, hoaxes, false information and so on to the point where folks that try to use the 'watch dog' can only expect that nothing will come from trying to change anything. End result, the 'Watch Dogs' start hunting the nuts and locking them away as 'low level terrorists'....

/Hat_off

Personally I think it is intended as Case #1, however it could be abused. Like in Case #2.... but it would not surprise me if Case #3 got used in addition to #'s 1&2.

Sometimes folks it is better to let sleeping dogs lie.

M.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:47 PM
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Now this post made me laugh, I almost spit out my coffee.
I bet they might actually read it as they obviously did not read the original.

Also, a small issue here, but I earned my degree in Ministry from "The Ministry of Truth" in Chicago.

So maybe we should call it what it is, The ministry of fools.



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