Obama 'Joker' Poster Causing a Stir in L.A.

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posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 09:58 AM
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My question is, the article I just read described it as 'demonic.' That makes no sense to me. How on earth is the Joker demonic? I think the author of that article is being just a bit dramatic.

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Oh wow. I never knew they did that. lol But I did an image search and sure enough they did:

VANITY FAIR BUSH JOKER IMAGE




posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:00 AM
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Typical Lib socialist tripe. It's amazing how short their memory is. I am far from a George Bush fan, but the Libs did a fine job of attacking him in a manner that I think transcended "...political spoofery'.

Examples? Sure

exhibit A

Exhibit B

Exhibit C

and....

Exhibit D


I particularly despise the last one as it not only is 'mean-spirited' against an individual, it also perverts the American flag. Having honor-guarded WWII veterans at funerals who have had the American flag draped over their coffins......very bad taste.


This administration and their power brokers are skilled in the tools of manipulation of information and the people. When they are on the ropes, they always find something to divert people's attention. When their policies tank, they hammer the birthers. When health care falters, they play race. And when all else fails - there's always Sarah Palin........



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:03 AM
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Why is calling someone a socialist deemed offensive?



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by kosmicjack
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Maybe I am. But I tend to think race is where they want the argument.

I'm not saying it's racist because I'm indignant or offended. My point is - What hot buttons are likely to be pushed by the image? IMO, the answer is race.

If we focus on having that argument then maybe we are being lead where they want us to go rather than paying attention to what's really going on.

[edit on 4/8/2009 by kosmicjack]


They are saying the same thing Vanity Fair was saying when they published Bush as the Joker.

He is a lunatic.

Although I don't agree that Bush was a lunatic, but that was the image they were protraying.


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posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:06 AM
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I think we are beyond the point of no return with Freedom of Speech. The government doesn't need to censor our words or suppress our voice. The American people themselves do it by smearing any one who goes against grain.

If you were to ask every American whether they are for or against Freedom of Speech, every one would say for. But it is stories like this that prove most Americans don't know what Freedom of Speech actually is.

Freedom of Speech isn't your right to freely talk about Myspace or freely vote for your favorite American Idol. It's not your right to enthusiastically talk about your favorite sports team or rebelliously blare your crap music.

Freedom of Speech is the freedom to be safe in your thoughts and beliefs and to freely express and speak those thoughts and beliefs on any and all topics. Freedom of Speech with limitations, exceptions, and restraints is not "freedom" at all; it's a privilege.

This poster has nothing to do with Obama's race and every thing to do with Obama's politics. If questioning Obama makes you racist against blacks, then questioning Bush makes you racist against whites. The double standards get us nowhere. All they do is provide for a convenient and safe supporting argument when you can't dispute Obama's socialist policies.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by CRB86
Why is calling someone a socialist deemed offensive?


Exactly ..i am FOR socialism and i find it kind of offensive some people here think being a socialist is a "Bad Thing"...

.... Anyways...the creators of this poster are pretty ignorant..as i pointed out before... The Joker was An ANARCHIST not a SOCIALIST...



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by CRB86
Why is calling someone a socialist deemed offensive?

Because the truth hurts.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:18 AM
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i've got to agree, this looks like a button pusher to me. the image symbolism is powerful.

the poster is reminiscent of white mistral imagery, except here, instead of a white guy "blacking up" you have a black guy "whiting up". then again, it might just be a joker image and the mistral undertone is accidental.

if the person who made the poster and identified themselves it wouldn't be an issue, for me anyway, even if the whiting up thing was the desired effect. the powerful dual image subtly embedded in the poster kind of raises a few red flags.

not that the image is bad, it's fairly clever and good poster art. the monkey thing with bush was a dig at fundamentalist christians so using subliminal digs shouldn't be a big deal when used against the sencibilities of liberals, but not standing up and saying you did it is a strange attitude on the part of the artist. if you're wearing a t-shirt with this on it you are willing to identify yourself, no issue, but remaining anon suggests they have some reason to hide.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by Next_Heap_With
The Joker was An ANARCHIST not a SOCIALIST...


Bush wasn't any more for Anarchy than Obama is, so as long as we're creating a list of politically ignorant people, throw Vanity Fair on there.

From the Wikipedia article on the Joker:

the Joker is portrayed as a master criminal whose characterization has varied from that of a violent psychopath to a goofy trickster-thief.

Both Bush and Obama have used deception to further their criminal agendas. I think that is what both this individual and Vanity Fair were going for when they cast Bush and Obama as the Joker.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:29 AM
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It appears to me to be an attempt to recast the widely popular hope picture of Obama with somebody that should be feared, the joker.

Just because you can't see the humor or the message behind it does not make it racist.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by CRB86
Why is calling someone a socialist deemed offensive?


Because its who they are, but they know its unpopular. They're trying to convert this country with swiftness and deception at every turn.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:46 AM
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I'd like to point out that seeing Obama in makeup or paint is part of his heritage


So, I have to wonder if any of his fathers home town will find this offensive or use it themselves to honor him .


www.blickwinkel.de...



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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This is rich.


'no one has taken credit so far'...


hehe. That's too funny. What would happen when they DID take credit? Oh yeah, I forgot...nothing, right? After all, we DO still have freedom of speech, right? Oops...forgot again. That was some other great nation from a long, long time ago.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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Keep your eye on the ball folks, this is not about Obama, the last president, the one before that, etc, etc....

Propaganda to stir the Jerry Springer types.


Sleepy ones pick a side, those that are aware know better.

[edit on 4-8-2009 by Realtruth]



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by squidboy
It's due to ignorance really. Anyone who tries to question him is labeled a Racist by others. It's very odd, but it's how it is. I blame the PC crowd for this one. Also, he can get away with a lot more.

We want equality, but we have something else nowadays.

The joker poster is awesome, because it questions his character, and mocks his character. Not his race.

Anyone who calls the race card on this one is ignorant. It's the Joker people.


In relating news, I bought this shirt months ago:




I love zombies, and loves the image. But due to people's ignorance I can not safely wear it, on fear of being beaten. Why? Ignorance.
That's awesome! I want one.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 11:24 AM
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The same individuals who are complaining are most likely the same people who complained about Bush violating the constitution. (which he certainly did)

But when someone they like is criticized, it's going too far.


Hypocrisy.

Even though I disagree with the poster art and it's content...I'm not going to bitch about it. It's someone's opinion on the president, let them have their fun...

[edit on 4-8-2009 by GorehoundLarry]



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 11:34 AM
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I definitely thought the designer did a good job putting those together. However, I have seen some race baiting throughout the internet, especially this particular one:

LA Weekely

There was a woman here in Las Vegas with the last name of Miley. She was running for a judge position I believe and someone changed her face to the joker. Minus the white face because these were massive signs.

She wasn't happy about the graffiti on her signs, but in a later interview, she thought maybe it was good PR. Which I think it was:

Stephanie Miley (Smiley) - Joker Graffiti



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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Objectively, the image is fairly mild and shouldn't on its own cause much of a stir. Bush was portrayed in much more negative ways.

Factor in the fact that its Obama though, and you have an entirely new element. Sad.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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Here is a good example of the hypocrisy being displayed. Although I haven't seen much about it in the MSM, I'm sure we are going to.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 12:29 PM
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www.flickr.com...

apparently this lady made that picture .

khateeb88's

Not necessary indicative of my political views. But I do think hes not all he said he is. You can already sense he's backing off his claims of change.


here is the original photo from time magaizine
www.obamamagazine.com...

just type obama joker in google image's.
She make's picture's and upload's them to flickster.

The poster's took the time magazine out is only difference.

But it's still her picture as anyone can clearly tell.





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