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Governments adore secrets. The uglier the government’s activities, the greater the likelihood a program of state secrecy will be be enacted to prevent the public from finding out how ugly it really is. President Obama, promising an end to torture and an unprecedented level of transparency within his administration, has instead reverted to Bush/Cheney style cover-ups (surprise!) and more legal demands for state secrecy regarding torture and perpetual detention without trial. Some Americans express complete disinterest in the cloak of secrecy the government invokes when called to account for illegal acts. They assume they’ll be immune from negative consequences of the government’s use of so-called black ops because they’re law abiding citizens, above government suspicion. For those who hold this view consider the MK-Ultra projects begun by the CIA during the last phase of WWII and continuing well into the 1970s and probably beyond. Nazi scientists carried on advanced research on “worthless” test subjects:
Originally posted by muzzleflash
MK Ultra and Operation CHAOS have still been going on for decades. Their capabilities have developed significantly and their experiments have only grown more disturbing and, dare I say, successful.
Originally posted by double_frick
Originally posted by muzzleflash
MK Ultra and Operation CHAOS have still been going on for decades. Their capabilities have developed significantly and their experiments have only grown more disturbing and, dare I say, successful.
is that fact or opinion?
so basically this article is saying that, for sure, the CIA has drugged random people in social situations without their knowledge?
i believe that. but is there any proof?
and what did it have to do with obama?
Originally posted by aleon1018
I later met him during an interview with one of the church members and Obama walked in and asked me if I ever heard of MK ultra and I said; " Isn't that some brand of make-up?"
[edit on 3-8-2009 by aleon1018]
Originally posted by jackflap
reply to post by aleon1018
Wow, thanks. Are you telling us then that you may be an MK product? I am sure that there are people that can help. The whole thing is right along the lines of what MK does. Why not tell us about your little chat with Obama?
Being on disability does not make you delusional. We would like to hear more.
Originally posted by double_frick
Originally posted by muzzleflash
MK Ultra and Operation CHAOS have still been going on for decades. Their capabilities have developed significantly and their experiments have only grown more disturbing and, dare I say, successful.
is that fact or opinion?
so basically this article is saying that, for sure, the CIA has drugged random people in social situations without their knowledge?
i believe that. but is there any proof?
and what did it have to do with obama?
Originally posted by aleon1018
reply to post by Strictsum
My supposed coming forward here isn't likely to be held very highly by most, especially having admitted schizophrenic symptoms. It's a vicious cycle of denial in one form or another.