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British stabbing venues closing

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posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by mooseinhisglory
how is british music supposed to get "better" (as if they care about your opinion lolz) if the bands have nowhere to play?
[edit on 3-8-2009 by mooseinhisglory]


More Atomic Kitten?



The tide is high
But I'm holding on
I'm gonna be your number one

I'm not the kinda girl
Who gives up just like that (Oh no)

It's not the things you do
That tease and hurt me bad
But it's the way you do the things
You do to me
I'm not the kinda girl
Who gives up just like that
*Oh no*

The tide is high
But I'm holding on
I'm gonna be your number one
The tide is high
But I'm holding on
I'm gonna be your number one

number one
number one

Every girl wants
You to be her man
But I'll wait my dear
'Til it's my turn
I'm not the kinda girl
Who gives up just like that
Oh no

The tide is high
But I'm holding on
I'm gonna be your number one
The tide is high
But I'm holding on
I'm gonna be your number one

number one
number one

Every time that I get
the feeling
You give me something
to believe in
Every time that I got
you near me
I don't believe that
I want it to be
But you know that
I'm gonna take
my chance now
I'm gonna make
it happen somehow
And you know I can
take the pressure
A moment's pain for
a lifetime pleasure

Every girl wants you to be her man
But I'll wait right here
'Til it's my turn
I'm not the kinda girl
Who gives up just like that
Oh no

The tide is high
But I'm holding on
I'm gonna be your number one
The tide is high
But I'm holding on
I'm gonna be your number one

Every time that I get
the feeling
You give me something
to believe in
Every time that I got
you near me
I don't believe that
I want it to be
But you know that
I'm gonna take
my chance now
I'm gonna make
it happen somehow
And you know I can
take the pressure
A moment's pain for
a lifetime pleasure









posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:36 PM
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reply to post by fraterormus
 


Well, I can always edit the word to "knifing". But I don't want to do that.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 01:45 AM
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reply to post by eldard
 


OK brit music is a little more than what you seem to think... (I know your after a rise... I'm a brit, we don't even do that for the pussy sex idols)

So now I suppose I call you out old skool chat stlye - ASL?



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by boaby_phet
good post bringing to light the closing of british pubs .

I am VERY confused about the post title? why have you dubbed them stabbing venues? ... im fairly sure way more people get stabbed on the streets or in peoples houses and not pubs..


Or in the streets in front of them pubs?




posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 06:52 AM
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Stabbing to me and everyone I work with means being stabbed with a knife.

Never heard anyone use shanking or merking either.

Yes most stabbings in this country occur fri/sat night after people have drank themselves silly so pubs/clubs are at least partially culpable - they are not meant to serve people who have already drank to much but lets face it they almost all do, not going to pass up the chance to make more money. Ironically it's the village pub that is most likely to stop you drinking to excess, not have happy hours, two shots for one and other drinking promotions designed purely to get you as drunk as possible as quickly as possible.

The big chains however offer ridiculous deals and drinking challenges, all the alko pops and strange coloured shots designed to be downed in one.

Give me a village pub every time, they usually have proper beer too, not just the latest fashion lagers. There's nothing worse than going out, only to find they only serve lagers, wines and spirits but no ALE.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 07:04 AM
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What do you think the tax revenues lost with 2000 pubs closing?

I have to tell you, when my state banned smoking in public businesses, many pubs were hurting. Then, there was whining because people went outside and smoked leaving butts all over the place.

Personally, I started going to the indian casinos where you can still smoke, drink, watch sports, etc...

I have not been to a non-smoking pub/tavern/bar since.

And I know others that have done the same.

The tribes were probably wondering with glee how the gods shown on them for the extra business, laughing all the way to the bank,

and the state, by enacting smoking bans did nothing but hurt business and slit their own throat as far as tax revenues. Not to mention infringing on the rights of smokers.



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 05:18 PM
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I'm not smoker but I'm all for their rights to smoke. Though I have noticed that todays cigarettes' odors cling immediately to clothing. Really, after just 10 seconds' exposure you'll smell of smoke as well.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 12:47 AM
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It will be a sad day when the small community pub is replaced by cheap generic National Chain pubs..


Truly a shame..



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 05:51 AM
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Pubs will return, that's for sure. Say, after a collapse of modern civilization due to wars and other #. It will gradually sprout again. It's a natural progression for humans to gather round in one place and guzzle alcohol.


The question is when?



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 06:40 AM
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pubs smell of BO and disinfectant now, all the interesting people are at home smoking being replaced with families who now bring their kids into pubs. They have been completely sanitized. It's a real shame that adults cant meet and drink and smoke, guilt free in a cosy environment with a jukebox and a sticky pool table. Them were the days



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 07:25 AM
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I assure you, my pub is an old fashioned, drinkers boozer where there are plenty of characters who enjoy a GOOD drink, a good laugh, a good arguement and discussion.

These are the very pubs that the government and TPTB do not want and are hell bent on shutting down.

They are becoming so few and far between, fortunately there are still a few in my town.

Everyone should join the fight to Save The British Pub!

The thought of drinking tinnies, in my front room, on my own fills me full of dread and holds no appeal to me whatsoever.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
Everyone should join the fight to Save The British Pub!


..and preferrably on the pavement outside after time



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 08:08 AM
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reply to post by Freeborn
 


Because the US wants to take you over. BEWARE!

They want to be the World Power.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 08:14 AM
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reply to post by eldard
 


Although the loss of jobs is horrible and is getting quite rediculous, this all makes sense.

Bars closing - well that's what you get for over charging your drinks. I hardly ever go to bars when I can get an entire bottle for 1/4 of the price or less. And that's not including the tip.

Post Offices closing - it's 2009, paper mail is bound to have it's downfall eventually. I never send mail unless it's my only option.

Many businesses and lifestyles are going to change drastically in this economy. However, it's been a long time coming. It's time for humanity to realize that technology can automate everything. Jobs(slavery) are no longer needed when machines can do all the work of the world.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 09:00 AM
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You got to ask yourself why is it so much cheaper?

It's cheaper and less labour intensive to run a canning and bottling line rather than keg beer.
It's cheaper to deliver can en masse to supermakets than delivering kegs to individual pubs via drays.
Supermarkets have a smaller profit margin; beer / lager etc is only a small percentage of the total volume of sales from the supermarket yet the volume still far exceeds those of individual pubs.
The majority of pub landlords pay extortionate amounts of rent to Pubco's.
The majority of pub landlords are 'tied' to Pubco's who charge ridiculous amounts for barrelage.
All on top of business rates, employees wages, excessive government taxes, utility bills, criminally high Sky bills, blah blah blah!

But whilst I love drinking, it is the sociable aspect of it that hold's the attraction.
I honestly can not see the point of sitting at home, watching #e on tv, drinking tinned beer, alone or even with a couple of family or friends, night after night.

And once all the pubs shut down and TPTB have us where they want us, just watch the price of tinnies rocket.

It is so obvious to me, and unfortunately seems inevitable unless people make a stand now.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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It'll never happen here, pub-culture is just a part of Yorkshire life...the centre of town has mainly student vodka bars and saccharine alcopops joints (the decor as well as the brew) but out in the sticks there are plenty of CAMRA rated pubs that you can linger all day over a book and a couple of pints, or get into meandering debates with the locals



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 11:59 AM
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I'm very sorry to hear about this as I'm a Yank ( American guy ) who absolutely enjoys the company of Islanders ( British blokes ) when I'm in Britain.

Let me inform the rest of the international community what is happening on an abstract level here or what we are losing by this smoking ban....

First off I don't smoke but I certainly don't mind if others do.

Me and my wife were in the beautiful English Wiltshire area and were out of ideas for how to find a hotel as all of the regular ones along the highway were filled at that time. I got frustrated and decided to clear my head with some Hobgoblin ale so we headed to a pub near Pewsey.

So we went inside and there was a few regular guys talking and throwing darts and of course, drinking beer. Once the bartender had established that I hated G.W. Bush we all got on like a bunch of old ladies in a sewing circle with a fresh warm batch of cookies to boot!. We talked about all kinds of great things. Not only this but once the Bartender had learned of our bad luck he got on the phone and called 3 different roadside hotels and found us one for the night and even got us reservations.

We were so happy about receiving this kind of good old fashioned hospitality that we never forgot it. As we visited more pubs in the countryside we started learning more and more about the Islanders and were very enticed by the knowledge and general friendship that we encountered.

I say bring back the cigarettes before we loose the British to their homes as has long ago happened in the USA. And do here me people of the British nationality, that once this happens you lose much more than you bargained for.

I hope that this situation reverses itself indeed as we plan on going back to Britain on our next trip.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by eldard
Pubs are quite central to British culture.
I wonder what could come out of this? Better British music?


In any case I hope football will be the next in line. That useless, sissy sport of hooligans deserve to be extinct.


obviously another American that cant play the beautiful game


Instead lets sit on our asses in a large energy gobbling house with fat children and proceed to tell the rest of the world how good America is....



Man up.....lol

You lot amaze me sometimes in how full of it and stupid some of you can be....

and if by some strange chance you happen not to be american I would recommend you going there, you can watch 'sissy's' in pads and protective gear playing a sus version of real rugby....




posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 12:26 PM
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Some thoughts;

1. Pubs closing is very sad, but the traditional boozer can still be found, especially here in semi-rural worcestershire. On this point, how can a pub that charges £3.70 for a pint of beer out in the sticks hope to compete with £1.20 in a wetherspoons in town? It's a hard battle but i think the pub will come out unscathed. After all, what's more english than a skinfull and a ruck over a bag of chips on a Friday night?

2. We give the world Black Sabbath and you pick up on The Ting Tings and Atomic Kitten? That's like me saying, "yeah American music is #, have you heard New Kids On The Block and N-sync?" Whilst ignoring The Stooges and Bob Dylan. Beyond weird.

3. Football is not a matter of life and death. It's much more important than that.



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