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An Overdue Ban On A Dangerous Sweetener

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posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 04:38 PM
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The fact it's in your chewing gum means its pretty ubiquitous.

Maybe if we all stopped consuming anything containing aspartame it would send a powerful message.

I dare say sugar does us less harm, anyway.




posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 04:46 PM
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substantial cost savings compared to sugar, which is 200 times less sweet.


As silly as this may sound... If SUGAR is 200x less sweet as they claim, and they use... say 2-3 tblsp of sugar per 12oz of Coke... Wouldn't it reason that Diet Coke is using just a dusting of aspartame to reach its' sweetness level?

Since the rest is water and mild flavoring and coloring... The price per 12oz Diet Coke should be ½ the price or regular Coke? (Notice I'm not saying FREE nor 200x less.)

I'm just sayin'



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 04:52 PM
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avoid this stuff at all costs.
whats wrong with just using regualr sugar?
also, why are the fattest people the ones always drinking diet soda? im sure theres no possible way theres a connection there....



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Next_Heap_With
Prohibition Round 6....

i don't like prohibition..., people should choose want they want to put in their bodies...the only thing the government should do warn about the dangers..but that is all..they should not ban...

-- If you think is dangerous to you then don't drink it... there is no reason to take away other people's enjoyment..


If it is toxic, it should not be available.
Would you approve of a sugary bottled drink made of formaldyhyde?
How about syrup made of 3 in one oil?
Or crisipy nut bars containing asphalt?



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by argentus
There's one product that still has saccarine in it


That was my point. No ban ever happened by the FDA for Saccarine. A ban was proposed by the FDA, but it never progressed past the proposal, and after 14 years the proposal to ban it was dismissed. Many products contain Saccarin (and now they can contain it without Warning Labels) such as Diet Coke products, Tab, and Sweet'nLow.


In regard to Stevia, we've been successful growing it, from seeds from a company in Oregon.


I know which one you are talking about. That's from my home town. We use Stevia here instead of sugar. If the FDA knew how many homemade food products are sold by cottage industries in our neck of the woods with Stevia in it they'd be spinning! I have to go four cities away before I see packets of Splenda, Sweet'nLow or such in stores or on tables in restaurants.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 04:59 PM
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I remember that I mentioned this issue to my dad at one point. He and everyone in the family (my step-mom/brother/sister) all drink diet sodas all the time. And because my dad became diabetic, they have a lot of products in the house that have aspartame in them.

I told him "that stuff's really bad for you" and he replied "that's all a bunch of baloney. There's nothing wrong with aspartame". Or something close to that. I didn't even have to elaborate on what I meant and he already knew because he heard about it.

So it seems that, for some, even if you try to educate them on it, if the government doesn't say it's wrong, then it's right. So people can shout from the mountain tops about the serious dangers of aspartame, but some won't believe it because they don't believe the government would be so dumb to let us consume the stuff in mass quantities. After all, the government always looks out for our best interests when it comes to this stuff. That's why we have the FDA, right?

This is people's mentality.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
what is to say, that small amounts over time will not show immediate signs of toxic overload, however a slowly administered poison may be harder to detect could show up as cancer as the body can no longer resist the toxins.


Yes, this is how Arsenic works.

I wonder how many people will eventually find themselves recovering from certain ills after they have not injested this stuff for a while.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:05 PM
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this title is misleading should be changed

only reason i opened this thread was because i thought a ban was actually in the works

not just another thread about aspartame

yea its bad

yea we all know it by now

dont really care to keep talking about it unless somethings actually being done

threads pretty much a waste of time for most people that will be mislead by the title

no offense to anyone

but theres plenty of threads on here about the substance

nothing really new here


edited just to say yea it would be nice if the new head of the fda did something about it

but i highly doubt they will anytime soon

make the thread when its actually in the works

[edit on 3-8-2009 by Dramey]



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:10 PM
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To those who are thinking that they always use extra high doses for their determinations:

Read the article.
"In 2006, based on highly sensitive and life long feeding tests in groups of about 200 rats and at doses less than usual human dietary levels, the prestigious Italian Ramazzini Foundation confirmed that aspartame is unequivocally carcinogenic. A high incidence of cancers was induced in multiple organs, including lymph glands, brain and kidney."

[edit on 3-8-2009 by OhZone]



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:19 PM
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Well I do not face this issue. I avoid diet drinks.

I also eat a ton of natural sugar. Natural sugar has never done me wrong. Go nature!



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:21 PM
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Wow a ban on aspartame would be a huge step in the right direction.

Though it would essentially eliminate or force reformulating on some of these diet sodas. Still, if it is banned, I might have to rethink my position on the FDA



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:22 PM
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I tried to tell my mother about the danger of aspartame but she thinks I am nuts



Even tho I tried to convince her, she keeps telling me, ok, it might be dangerous if you have a lot but I only consume a little... (still thinking I am a nutcase for believing that it is very dangerous)


I drew my own conclusion after watching this video

video.yahoo.com...

I can't embed it for it is a yahoo video, can't seem to find it on Google vid/youtube... Odd for the first time I have seen it, it was on google video where I downloaded it in .avi format.


It is a very comprehensive documentary on how deadly aspartame is. To put mildly, one slowly embalm themselves by consuming aspartame. Never could stomach the stuff anyway as I recently found a few month ago when I bought a bottle of sparkling lime water and made the mistake of not reading the label
As soon as it was chilled, took a sip and spat it out in the kitchen sink so nasty that stuff was! Needless to say that the rest of it followed in the sink.

Thank you Donald Rumsfeld!




According to a G.D. Searle's salesperson, Patty WoodAllott, Donald Rumsfeld stated "he would call in all his markers and that no matter what, he would see to it that aspartame be approved this year."

This interview with consumer attorney Jim Turner reveals how Donald Rumsfeld "called in his markers" as part of Reagan's transition team in 1981. Here is why G.D. Searle felt compelled to reapply for aspartame's approval one day after Reagan's inauguration.

This is despite rejection of aspartame over brain tumors.



Now if only mother didn't think I was a loon...



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
I myself do consume it, I love my single malt with diet 7UP, it's lovely.


OT I know but...

Aaaaargh....the sacrilige! That poor single malt!




posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:29 PM
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Atkins never recommended it, he said go with Splenda.
He must have checked the records.
So was there some type of Illuminati deal made here.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by Taikonaut

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
I myself do consume it, I love my single malt with diet 7UP, it's lovely.


OT I know but...

Aaaaargh....the sacrilige! That poor single malt!




OMG, Ditto!


I don't even dare to drink my Glenlivet on rocks, defeats the purpose of a good single malt!



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by suicydking
Just curious...
Why ruin the flavor of a single malt with diet soda? If you have a whiskey habit, surely diet soda isn't going to help much anyway. That shot has lots more calories than a glass of 7up.


Well diet 7up tastes slightly different than normal 7UP.
And it seems to go very well with whiskey.

Honestly I usually just use gingerale with whiskey or scotch, but for some reason diet 7up with whiskey gives something different.


After reading about the concerns about aspertame I stopped using diet mixers in whisky and now use soda water. I now taste the whisky and much prefer it.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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Sorry to go OT, but Oregon is the place to be!

Ok back to the topic...


The big problem in my mind, is that yes people should be able to sell whatever they want, and the public should be informed. Unfortunately the bigger I get, the more I can make sure you don't get informed about my product. So simply saying the GOV should butt out doesn't work, because they are already stopping these types of cottage industries.

You either have to say, that people can sell and buy whatever they want or it will be regulated in a manner that is fair to the American Consumer.

Too many of the large corps use their capital as a source of gravity as they lobby the law towards their liking.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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I avoid aspartame like the plague, but I continue finding it in new places.

My most recent discovery? Microwavable bagged popcorn. Blew my mind.

No diet soda, no chewing gum, no blue packets. I don't care if you need to consume large amounts it for there to be a problem. All that means is it hurts you a little bit over time.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 06:15 PM
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a single malt with a mixer in it...thats a travesty. you might as well spread nutella on lobster.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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don't like prohibition..., people should choose want they want to put in their bodies...the only thing the government should do warn about the dangers..but that is all..they should not ban...-- If you think is dangerous to you then don't drink it... there is no reason to take away other people's enjoyment..

its not about enjoyment, you're talking about the right for people to make suicidal choices which is actually called insanity or unhappiness. enjoyment is when you live a full life with all the potency of your health and you don't support negativity or delusions. 80% or more of what is in a typical supermarket is a total waste of time and represents an empty zombie life of cultural hypnosis. A waste of resources, toxic to eat, hypnotic programming, pet food, chemicals, plastics, now genetically modifications, irradiation - jeez anyone half awake goes to a market and its like a little shop of horrors!! bottom line is whether you agree or whatever - choices all have consequences and we all gotta work this # out and soon it seems to me!



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