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Are you being programmed to over react and rebel?

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posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 12:25 PM
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Hello all,

Are you being programmed to over react and rebel?

That was one of the questions rolling around in my head as I settled down to go to sleep. Having noticed an absurd amount (in my opinion) of alarmist and reactionary behavior the past week, and having a neuron or two nudged from reading a web bot report; I can only conclude that the answer is yes.

Admittedly this is all theory.

However, the evidence supporting it is kind of glaring, once you step back and look at it. I do a lot of writing, mostly science fiction for my own amusement, though I do have a small following.
So I know words have power, and depending on how you string them together, how you place written emphasis; and when spoken add audible cues, you can influence emotions and inspire action.

A long time ago I read a science fiction book that used such 'verbal programming' to add stressors to a population under a regime so they would rise up and rebel. The brief and simple gist of it was:

"It's not what you say, but how you say it."

The protagonists of the story went on to seed the population with buzzwords and subtle linguistic pointers that when used or 'invoked' (if you will) caused the population to have a 'knee jerk' reaction. So as the story went on the population became more and more sensitized to the buzz words, that even when the 'bad guys' used the same words, it focused the population's ire on the 'bad guys.' So when the 'revolution events' occurred the population was programmed to rise up against the regime.

Now it seems to me, that a similar sort of 'linguistic programming' is being applied to the (please forgive the generalization,) alarmist reactionary (paranoid) population in an attempt to ensure riots and rebellion -will- occur. It's also rather evident (to me anyways) that the linguistic 'keys' that a goodly number of people have been tuned to, are getting are getting turned. Their buttons are getting pushed if you will, leading up to the point where they become less and less likely to act and respond in a rational, calm, thinking manner.

Or if you will, they are being set up to die on cue.

So the question that begs to be asked is to what end and how?

Well there are no lack of potential conspiracies that could benefit from such programming. I also suspect you could think of half a dozen without trying too hard, after all you have likely been exposed to them on a daily basis.
So for the moment let us focus on how.

First you have to understand the group that you want to incite, which means they likely are researching (for example) the 'alarmist reactionary activists group,' and then building a 'lexicon' of key words and issues. Once they build up the lexicon, they pick out the top 'linguistic keys' from it and start building 'test sentences' and start feeding them out into speeches, documents and the like; after which they 'grade' the results and then refine the next set of 'sentences.' Rinse and repeat until the perfect 'sentences' provoke the desired response on a ninety percent success rate.

Next, select individuals are fed entire 'paragraphs' of these programming sentences to gauge reaction or if you will provoke action.

Say for example, an underground radio/web activist reporter that is followed by your 'target group.' This person gets hit with the programmed text, and having been conditioned (if you will), reacts by jumping at shadows, finding the bogeyman on his doorstep, etc. Then the person while in the 'grips' of their programming makes a series of reactionary 'broadcasts' where the 'verbal keys' are sent out and with either planted 'evidence,' or if you will along with misinterpreted facts or events in a neat ready to eat package. Of which 'programs' their audience, adding in more 'stressors' to the target group. (Trojan Horse anyone?)

Then the results are 'graded' and the next paragraph or chapter is constructed. Or they may just let the 'stressor' level die down only to build it back up, further conditioning the target group. Much like Pavlov's dog.

So far this is just a theory, and as such could be wrong, right or even incomplete.

However, it seems valid to me.
M

[edit on 2-8-2009 by Moshpet]




posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 12:28 PM
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Seems valid to me, too

Good post



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 01:00 PM
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I tend to agree. I do think that most of the programming is unconscious on both ends, however, although quite a few know exactly what they are doing. It is the nature of an entity to justify its existence. The nature of power and control in this world is to create circumstances justifying the control. Get people to respond like animals, and you justify your desire to oppress them. The dragon is eating itself, brother. And you and I can be an integral part of feeding the dragon his own flesh. The key, I believe, is to not get lost in the illusory division, to not see things in parts or halves, but rather to see the whole. When we see the whole, we see the sea of interconnections. We then realize our only choice is to love, and to display that love as best we can. Do we make mistakes from time to time? Of course. But we acknowledge them, forgive ourselves and others, and we move on. We must not get lost in the power grab of the selfish with no regard for the other. We must not get caught in the parasitical spider's web. We must go for the roots and not get distracted by the branches.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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If this is the case, then there really is no hope correct? I mean if they are programming us will be very hard to overcome the programming.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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That would make sense though, if your coming from the opinion that the end goal is simply death and destruction and the dismay of the human race. Build up both sides so they can knock eachother down.

in the end though, only you can make yourself do anything



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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Hi Mosh!
Glad to see you 'round! Good thread!
My opinion? Of course it is happening.
It called propaganda -or- conditioning.
By this time in our society almost everything
revolves and is run by it.
Why do you think people are hoarding ammo?
Same reason. Its in my signature.
Land of the greed, home of the 'FRAID. Or just plain paranoid.

or better yet, completely duped and brainwashed.

Hint: if this isnt all planned, we really got some real dumb a**
people running things! (sorry for the french)
Either way not looking too good. IMO

I really see this happening alot locally.
Be it the paranoia over gun control, or the paranoia over
the pres being anything from the antichrist to an alien. Geeesh.
Like everything we do, we go overboard and screw ourselves eventually.

Honestly, I'm surprised we didnt start WW3 with the bay of pigs crisis.
The only reason we didnt is because kennedy saw the truth!
BTW, he was killed.....
Just think what would have happened if one of these war monger,
right wingers of the world would have been in charge then!


Nope paranoid or not, given enough time, we will push our own button.
(And yes that sentence has numerous meanings)
Thanks for your thoughts! S&F!



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
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If this is the case, then there really is no hope correct? I mean if they are programming us will be very hard to overcome the programming.


Only if we are oblivious to the programming and people are waking up BIG TIME.

I believe that a violent revolution/upheaval is exactly what The Powers That Be want and that's why they're pushing this so hard.

Like the OP said, it's painfully obvious that this is happening once you become aware of it.
It seems especially bad in the US, but it's also quite apparent in Britain & many other countries.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
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If this is the case, then there really is no hope correct? I mean if they are programming us will be very hard to overcome the programming.


I think there is always hope


Though yes if the programming exists, of which I think it does, it becomes a matter looking for the keys you may be sensitive to; and then recognizing you may be set up to fail. (Die.)

I think the poor lady who got arrested for photographing a military base during the NLE09 event time frame is such a victim. Picture a person so wound up by the 'keys' that she went to get proof of a NLE/NWO conspiracy... taking her guns with her in her car! So far it seems like they are going to brand her has mentally disturbed; thus possibly creating a 'case' for mental patients having guns as a 'dangerous' precedent.

I also there there has been a ton of conditioning building up recently to provoke such actions.

As such it ultimately comes down to the individual person, before they get caught up in a mob, to set the brakes and not walk into the trap.

M.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 01:43 PM
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When I get into my automobile and take off, I always glance at the fuel gauge.

It seems to provide an indication of a need. I can see it's creep toward the "E", and if I ignore it, I'll find myself out of fuel. Possibly stranded, possibly at night, possibly at a very bad location.

To see what's going on today politically and economically, isn't some grand deception to get us to react. They're not that smart.

To recognize what's coming is prudent.

Just as sure as hell, we're approaching empty, it's painfully obvious if you'll just look at the gauge.

No programming.

Awareness.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 02:01 PM
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Thanks, Dopper.

I always look to you for insight, whether or not that is wise or justified.


I've long thought that they know their target audience and they allow things to fester, to push that group over the edge, thus avoiding the need to appear heavy handed. It's easier to outlaw something when the rest of the world agrees that it's a bad thing, or something that needs controlling for our own good.

So, if there is no programming, then there must also be no concern about how they appear to us. That would make things a lot worse than I had originally thought. I suppose it also makes things a little easier. I can stop trying to find the underlying motivation and assume that their intentions are incredibly obvious. What I hear you saying is what we see is what we get.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 02:16 PM
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As you say It's obvious that the gauge is approaching zero, so to speak. I think most people here agree that.

The question is how we react to it and nothing would suit the elite better than to have people fighting and shooting each other over scraps of food, rather than cooperating & actually building something better.

And if you have a violent mob it's very easy to justify sending in the military and ramp up the violence.

The elite knows this and that's why they are trying to get people to react with anger & violence.


And it is painfully obvious.
Just look at Fox News, owned by media mogul Rupert Murdoch. Lapdog & mouthpiece for the Bush administration.

They are pushing this "violent revolution" meme so hard it's ridiculous.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:23 PM
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All I have to say is that there is a controlled opposition. "They" control both sides of the argument, and "They" have their agents in the truth community:

Alex Jones - Shill

David Icke - Shill

Ron Paul - Shill

Creators of Zeitgeist - Shill

Creators of Loose Change - Shill

They only open your eyes to throw more dirt in them. The rabbit hole goes deep, and half truths are the strongest and most suitable form of lies that can be used against a populace.

Wake up. Stop the fear. Love each other. Become aware. And hope...

Hope that something is going to save us, because we have let it go to a point in which we did not wake up fast enough to survive.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:34 PM
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Hi again. Wanted to catch up.
I agree big time Mr vertigo!

Moshpet. Good point.
At this stage I think the only thing we have left is hope!
And maybe sayin' a little prayer wouldn't be a bad idea either...
I wondered about the lady for the same reasons!



I also there there has been a ton of conditioning building up recently to provoke such actions.

I do to. The peeps are running scared! For lack of a better way to put it.


As such it ultimately comes down to the individual person, before they get caught up in a mob, to set the brakes and not walk into the trap.

Wise words! This -I think- is where it ties in with the "awakening"
and the internal change required for mankind to continue.

I really becomes up to each one of us.
We are individualy responsible for our own survival, ultimately.

Dooper as always you nailed it!
Brilliant analogy! WTG!

KSpigpen, it sounds like thats what we need the politicians for!


[edit on 2-8-2009 by dodadoom]



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:27 PM
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Americans love to be paranoid. We love to overreact.

Especially when someone becomes president and we don't want them to be. We tend to overreact just a bit and compare the guy to Hitler....and then claim he wasn't born in the US


But I blame the media really. Especially MSM. What happened to news? Every time you turn on Fox, they're saying the new healthcare system is meant to kill senior citizens and we're going to be a socialized nation. Didn't Regan put out a record about the "dangers" of socialized medicine? And guess what..he was wrong.

We love overreacting to stupid sh*t.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:41 PM
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this is why you must cut 90%-100% of all TV viewing. Anyone that thinks they have their own thoughts needs to do some serious research. I would suggest the book 'propaganda' put out by the CIA in the 60's about the power of TV.

also stay away from using cell phones as much as possible.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
Americans love to be paranoid. We love to overreact.

Especially when someone becomes president and we don't want them to be. We tend to overreact just a bit and compare the guy to Hitler....and then claim he wasn't born in the US


But I blame the media really. Especially MSM. What happened to news? Every time you turn on Fox, they're saying the new healthcare system is meant to kill senior citizens and we're going to be a socialized nation. Didn't Regan put out a record about the "dangers" of socialized medicine? And guess what..he was wrong.

We love overreacting to stupid sh*t.


this is why you must cut 90%-100% of all TV viewing. Anyone that thinks they have their own thoughts needs to do some serious research. I would suggest the book 'propaganda' put out by the CIA in the 60's about the power of TV.

also stay away from using cell phones as much as possible.
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Gorehound makes my point exactly, look at him regurgitate talking points from MSNBC then complains about MSM.

That is like saying you have the right to self protect but you don't believe in guns or you don't believe in hunting but you eat meat or you believe in depopulation but have 5 kids.

I think david icke summed it up the best. We are just repeaters but hopefully we can slowly draw ourself out of that mindset.

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[edit on 2-8-2009 by epete22]



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 05:05 PM
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The protagonists of the story went on to seed the population with buzzwords and subtle linguistic pointers that when used or 'invoked' (if you will) caused the population to have a 'knee jerk' reaction.


Yep, I agree. Had'nt thought of it before, but its a typical, and very subtle Problem, Reaction, Solution senario.

Have you identified any particular words or phrases you think are typical of this programming ? How about the term 'New World Order'. Is this meant to get us to accept the idea of a One World Government, or to get us pissed and angry and reactionary.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 05:15 PM
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Excellent question and interesting speculation!
I know you are asking Mosh, and I hope he chimes in,
but if I may interject my thoughts here,
I feel it is all to make us think we need it, just like the war in iraq
was tolerated because it was deemed 'neccesary'.
Or, it's better there than here type of attitude.

When the people are scared enough they will think its a good thing.
When our money crashes we will be begging to be let in,
or will be in on it.
The ultimate form of socialism, communism or fascism even.
Indeed, I have heard many on ATS who think its a good thing.

Some scary stuff right there, my friends.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 05:24 PM
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Mosh, I love speculative threads like this! I've always assumed that the Powers That Be might be anticipating some sort of revolt/revolution, and are trying to stir things up. They win either way, because our delcine funds their rise.

That being said, someone pointed out that Icke, Jones, Paul, et al are all shills. Jones might be. It's pretty clear that Icke is for conspiracy entertianment only..though he has brought up valid points about those certain families of wealth and power. But Paul...come on. The man is like the Yoda (Jedi) equivalent of noble, political, figures. He's a dead breed dying.

Good use of interpretation though, to each his own. This is what ATS was supposed to be about.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 05:28 PM
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What're you talking about? Who says I'm making points taken from MSNBC..I refuse to watch or listen to MSM...so really, I have no idea where you got your assumption from.

Also, stay away from cell phones? Sorry, but if my car breaks down on the side of the road...I think having a cell phone would be nice.

[edit on 2-8-2009 by GorehoundLarry]



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