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Originally posted by Vinciguerra
Also You can not show us a 757 size hole in the pentagon. Swampfox could
I'd suggest that if anything, the damage at the Pentagon is more realistic than that at the WTC.
Originally posted by Seventh
Dave it`s not that technical, notice this...
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by titorite
The hole should be somewhere around that Big red circle but there is none.
Heck the explosion looks as though it was completely from the inside out, I mean Look at that lawn. No divots from where the plane allegedly hit the ground and bounced back up, No scattered plane parts, Nothing to suggest a plane crash.
We have alot to suggest an internal explosion but not alot to suggest that the explosion was cause by a plane crash.
Kinda questionable if you ask me.
First off, this is a bizarre photo to be demanding a crystal clear view from, since you can see right in the picture there's clouds of smoke coming from the Pentagon as well as a stream of water from that fire truck. We can't really see anythign of the Pentagon behind this obstruction *at all*, let alone any structural damage.
Second, you have not noted when this photo was taken. The very first thing they did on day one was to pick up all the pieces of wreckage as evidence, and the link I provided alreedy shows the wreckage found on the lawn becuase it was taken almost immediately after the impact. The lack of visible wreckage in your photo (plus there being a fire truck already having arrived) suggests it was taken some time afterwards. It is not a good basis to use this to claim "no wreckage".
Third, your photo does not refute the multitude of eyewitnesses who specifically saw the aircraft hit the Pentagon. The building isn't out in the middle of nowhere- there are buildings and houses all around it, PLUS there's a major highway right next to it. There were many witnesses to what happened, which, again, were listed in the link I provided.
I do thank you for your photo, but at best, it doesn't disprove anything I said, and at worst, it only proves my arguments, rather than yours.
Originally posted by Seventh
The 2nd shows exactly the same times but also the times of actual impact from NIST using data from FAA, now afaik FAA also use the UTC to set their times with, if so it really can only mean one thing, the respective data from the seismographs is not the jets impacting, but explosions 14 and 17 seconds respectively beforehand.
Originally posted by Donny 4 million
Do you have photos that do show all these things . I would sure like to see em. Any way who picked that plane up even before the first responders got there? The janitors?