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Recently a Californian attorney, Orly Taitz, publicly released a copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. Taitz has filed a motion in the U.S. District Court for authenticating the document, but as of right now, the birth certificate appears authentic. As World News Daily reports, “No doctor is listed. But the alleged certificate bears the signature of the deputy registrar of Coast Province, Joshua Simon Oduya. It was allegedly used as a certified copy of the original in February 1964. WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical. Despite the fact that a hoax document similar in nature circulated the Internet last week, WND reports that the document ‘bears none of the obvious traits of a hoax.’”
Taitz told WND: “I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds.
I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a
deposition from Hillary Clinton
so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate].
” The birth certificate was discovered by an anonymous source, who feared publicity because of the possibility of retaliation.
Many Obama supporters have naively claimed that the birther movement has been ridiculous because there is no way the government would allow such a thing to ever happen. Obviously, this discovery raises the question of who allowed this to happen and how honest the American government truly is to its people. Who are the Obama administration and the government really working for?
Originally posted by Electro38
How many people really believe that the doc. we've been looking at in this thread will be accepted in court?
Haven't there been other documents found before this one, which had you all going nuts with orgasmic enthusiasm?
What happened to those documents? Any court trials going on with those?
Originally posted by Ulala
Here's the original Constitution of Kenya Act, it's the one which took Kenya into independence. There's no reference I can see to "Republic". Republic was only added by amendment to this constitution in December 1964.
It's a PDF file, might take a few seconds to load up.
Originally posted by Electro38
Originally posted by Aggie Man
Ummm...pardon me for not reading 58 pages....but was this thread not marked [HOAX] just a few hours ago?
Yes. It was categorized as a hoax this morning? And then, lo... here we go again.
I don't know what really happened.
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by Ulala
Our Founding Fathers called their land the United States of America before 07/04/1776.
And they were still under British rule!
WASHINGTON — Six Texas congressmen are in the middle of a summertime political tempest sweeping the nation's capital over legislation to require future presidential candidates to show birth certificates to prove they are “natural born citizens” of the United States eligible to serve as president.
The effort by the lawmakers, including Houston-area Reps. Ted Poe, R-Humble, and John Culberson, R-Houston, stems from a so-called “birther movement” mounted by some conservative Republicans and talk-show hosts who continue to question whether President Barack Obama is a natural born citizen.
The Texans have not adopted the prove-it's-not-true approach pressed by talk-show hosts such as Rush Limbaugh, who insists “Barack Obama has yet to prove he's a citizen” and “all he'd have to do is show a birth certificate.” But the lawmakers' effort lends credence to what some dismiss as a fringe movement fanned by unsubstantiated rumors swirling on the Internet thanks to bloggers such as Californian Orly Taitz. “I believe it is a serious concern” that requires Congress to “subpoena all of Obama's vital records,” Taitz writes.
The Constitution stipulates that “no person except a natural born citizen” shall be eligible to serve as president. The Presidential Eligibility Act proposed in March by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla., would require campaign committees to submit a copy of the candidate's birth certificate to the Federal Election Commission with other documentation as necessary to prove eligibility.
Originally posted by Jenna
reply to post by Stormdancer777
I started a thread about that bill a few weeks ago. Regardless of how this whole Obama mess turns out, this bill is sorely needed.
In the Declaration of Independence your nation is referred to as the united States of America, with a lower case u in united.
A bit pedantic, I suppose, but if you can't even get your own nation name correct ...
Originally posted by JacKatMtn
Take a look here
It appears it was part of a court filing AUG 1 ?
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
I still haven't heard anyone explain why this thread was labeled hoax earlier is now no longer labeled as such?
The engrossed copy of the Declaration renders the "u" in United States in small case, i.e. "united States", one of several variations in capitalization and punctuation that historians Boyd and Becker believed to be of no significance; Boyd, Evolution, 25–26. In his notes and Rough Draft, Jefferson capitalized variously as "United states" (Boyd, Papers of Jefferson, 1:315) and "United States" (ibid., 1:427).