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Photo - Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate (political fraud)

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posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:22 AM
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Okay so this is a conspiracy website. Just to stir the pot a bit

What are the odds?

Clinton Leaves for Seven-Nation Africa Visit


U.S Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is scheduled to leave Washington Monday on a seven-nation Africa visit. The five day trip will take her to Kenya, South Africa, Angola, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Nigeria, Liberia, and Cape Verde

Hillary Clinton is also scheduled to meet Somalia's President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed in Kenya's capital, Nairobi.




posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by serial
 


I do however believe that we have allowed the constitution to be trampled on , and not by just this administration. And those guilty of the hypocrisy of blaming this administration and not the last , SHOULD be ashamed of themselves.

There are a few schools of thought on that im sure, but, if they were ignorant to the actions of the last administration for whatever reason, and just woke up because of this one, they should be ashamed......HOWEVER I AM glad that they woke up....


I'm guilty here, when I was a happy 19 year old in 2001 with a descent job and a car they could have passed a law against puppies and I wouldn't have noticed. It's only since I've been booted out of the american dream myself that I've had the time to open up my eyes a bit, and I'm better for it.

Thank jebus sites like ATS exist so newer red pills like myself have a place to talk about and read about these sort of topics without fear of censorship.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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So this thread is now labeled as a HOAX huh?

Why then can you do a people search and find people who's first name starts with an E and their last name is "Lavender"?

I think they are jumping the gun on this personally. The only way to tell if this is a real person or not is to obtain a list of the government employee's and what h registrars name was in 1961.

[edit on 3-8-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:28 AM
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I can't believe this thread was tagged hoax when EVERY SINGLE POINT the Obamatrons put forth has been debunked with the exception of one.

The number on the certificate, 47,044. That's the only thing that can't be explained

Gldngun took the post SkepticOverlord used to label this a hoax and ripped it apart, all factually. This was done *before* SO flagged it hoax.

Get this back in the forum where it belongs. There are still too many questions either way.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:29 AM
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post removed because the user has no concept of manners

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posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:36 AM
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Honestly how many times have you seen that happen? Someone comes along with "100% genuine PROOF" that they won't disclose. Or Smoking Gun information from an anonymous source only to find out a few dozen pages later the OP was the source, and the "100% genuine PROOF" is a heaping load of horse manure.

And as for my last comment. I stand by that accusation. Reading through your posts against Muslims has shown this to be true.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:39 AM
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Ok, I read like 20 pages and didnt see any mention or the number at the top of the BC in the pic.

Its 47,O44

Odd that he is the 44th president and hes 47 years old, and the "O", Obama?

If its real they really had it planned out a LONG time ago.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by MaynardisGod
Whats funnier than the idea that Obama was not born in Hawaii? John McCain was born IN PANAMA.
Regardless that he was at a "US base" which they claim to be US soil but I tend to think thats the dumbest claim ever, McCain was born outside of the continental US


And the best part is that this is %100 FACT.


en.wikipedia.org...

Just thought I would throw that out there for all these birthers to eat their own puke

[edit on 3-8-2009 by MaynardisGod]


Huh? McCain had 2 American parents, including a father serving overseas in the military. Just a tad bit different than having a complete foreigner for a parent.

I think you are the one choking on something unsavory.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:42 AM
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Hypothetical scenario...

I have somehow gotten a certified copy of Obama's birth certificate. It is legit. Here I hold the smoking gun that could split an entire nation apart. The guy listed on this form has a history of whacking witnesses (albeit not as bad as the Clintons)

Not to mention the fact that all Obama has to do is invoke the dreaded "in the name of national security" title and have a CIA/NSA goon to pay me a visit to do some wetwork and retrieve the one piece of paper that would bring the whole thing down.

It was stated that the source hasn't come forward because he was afraid for his life. He has every right to be!



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:43 AM
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A BIG Thank You to SO for moving this thread back OUT of the HOAX sub-forum

My faith in ATS has been restored



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:45 AM
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Things have changed around ATS and not necessarily for the better. Although if I know SO well enough, there is no reason this shouldn't be in the forums still, how about it SO?

There are much bigger things going on that are affecting the world right now other than Obama's birth certificate.

It is not just the BC issue that is causing such a stir. Sure it is the topping upon a very large pie. It is the fact that so many people believed in his words for change and hope. Those two words are very powerful. His call for transparency and accountability when he himself has yet to be transparent about anything pertaining to his background. Yet, anyone who raises a question is immediately dubbed a McCain supporter or racist. That is very suspicious. His words and his actions have become hypocrtical in nature.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:45 AM
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EXCELLENT! I take back most of the negative things I just said about you to my girl, SO.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:47 AM
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Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yuppie thanks mods,



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by redhatty
A BIG Thank You to SO for moving this thread back OUT of the HOAX sub-forum

My faith in ATS has been restored


AMEN MINE AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:54 AM
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Thank you MODS for reviewing this , and addressing the comments and concerns posted by the various people on ATS.....

Our only hope is that people will remain objective on this thread, and refrain from slandering, and name calling......

Lets discuss this in a fair manner peeps!

Now, back on topic and moving forward!



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:54 AM
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here!here!It's nice to see facts matter!
edit not to sound ungrateful but could you review the last couple a pages there was some BS going on
def; BS= bad stuff name calling. thanks , I thought the op took a few low blows


[edit on 3-8-2009 by genius/idoit]

[edit on 3-8-2009 by genius/idoit]



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:57 AM
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Please folks... this is a huge thread that grew fast, and continues to grow quickly.

Please refrain from posting non-relevant comments and simplistic 1-liners... it will greatly help those who are using this thread to ascertain all angles of the issue.

Thank you.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 11:57 AM
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This whole thing was a hoax?

What happened to the lawyer Mrs. Ortiz, who as it was explained to me here many times, has been making preparations for presenting the document in court?

I'm confused, because it was also analyzed and confirmed to be real but many experts who happened to be participating in this thread.

The analysis by the experts here, and consensus by most people in the thread, that it was indeed a real document, (the holy grail which was going to be used to remove the pres from office), seemed so decisive and final.

I guess the search continues.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 12:01 PM
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Well I'd say that was some vindication are we back to no one can de bunk this document?



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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Was the lawyer who was mentioned many times in this thread even a real lawyer or person. Did anyone who was defending her existence ever bother to check? Does anyone know if she really exists?

Amazing how people will defend something like that without ever really confirming it's authenticity. Were there any real forgery experts here? Or any digital image experts?

This whole thread just reaffirms my belief (my humble opinion) that there is a huge racial component to this movement, especially in this forum.

Truly amazing, in a sociological context.



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