Photo - Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate (political fraud)

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posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:38 AM
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It proves that the Kenyan BC is VERY easy to forge... It has no markings or seals to prevent it.

I simply posted it to show that ANYONE with the motivation could have forged it.

Its not empirical proof of a forge no, but does go to show how easy it is to do... Much easier than a Hawaii one...

[edit on 3-8-2009 by XTexan]




posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by schrodingers dog
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Mmm, safe in the knowledge that you will not heed it, this is my advice to you ...

You have an opportunity to stop now before your membership here is forever defined by backing the deadest horse on the history of horses.

Whether you choose to open your eyes and ears, hour after hour I and others have added more evidence to show what an obvious hoax this is.

I have other evidence to add, but I am having too much fun trickling it down to the likes of you cause quite frankly, I enjoy watching the hamsters in your heads trying to find your way around the facts in order to justify yourselves and the horse you backed.

But like I said, no need to believe me, you should go right ahead and go all in on this "issue" and see where it takes you.


I don't know if the document is legit or not as I have said many times on this thread.

But I DO KNOW that this is not some "freeper fraud" is you keep saying.

I'm sorry if that doesn't jive with your DUmmie talking points.

And I DO KNOW that you are ALL HAT and NO CATTLE. Your water pistol is empty, but you'll have more "earth-shaking" revelations for us just as soon as your DUmmie friends come up with some more lies to "drip" out, right?



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by XTexan
reply to post by GLDNGUN
 


It proves that the Kenyan BC is VERY easy to forge... It has no markings or seals to prevent it.

I simply posted it to show that ANYONE with the motivation could have forged it.

Its not empirical proof of a forge no, but does go to show how easy it is to do... Much easier than a Hawaii one...

[edit on 3-8-2009 by XTexan]


Really? The Hawaiin one has been debunked and the "fightthesmears" website it appeared on his vanished. Thus far, this one has not been proven to be false.

If this document IS a fake, I certainly hope it is exposed ASAP. I think we'll know a lot more in the next couple of days.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:43 AM
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I call for the document to be authenticated.

Must add, the second I saw Google Censoring stuff relating to this very topic, I have a feeling this may be a vital smoking gun.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I've never once seen these warnings ever.


We need this document authenticated. If this true, then we are f____d. God help us.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:44 AM
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Haha these birthers are even more thick then i could imagine...


First, the hospital is Coast Provincial General Hospital (sometimes said to be Coast Province General Hospital), not Coast General Hospital.

Second, Kenya was a Dominion the date this certificate was allegedly issued and would not become a republic for 8 months.

Third, Mombasa belonged to Zanzibar when Obama was born, not Kenya.

Fourth, Obama's father's village would be nearer to Nairobi, not Mombasa.

Fifth, the number 47O44-- 47 is Obama's age when he became president, followed by the letter O (not a zero) followed by 44--he is the 44th president.

Sixth, EF Lavender is a laundry detergent.

Seventh, would a nation with a large number of Muslims actually say "Christian name" (as opposed to name) on the birth certificate?

Eigth, his father (born in 1961) would have been 24 or 25 when he was born and not 26.

Ninth, it was called the "Central Nyanza District," not Nyanza Province. The regions were changed to provinces in 1970.


The birthers got taken in hook, line, and sinker with this one. It's some kind of cosmic alignment of hilarity and pitifulness and it's awesome to see it.


By OP
Oh .. this could be fun!


Yeah, it's freaking hilarious!

[edit on 3-8-2009 by XyZeR]



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:48 AM
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What can you learn from this ?

When the Sith lords want you to become "president" you don't have to worry about paperwork


But I do not think it was a mistake. It's too simple to repair and to realize for it to be a mistake. So for now I say it's all planned : including letting the masses know the president is not legal.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:49 AM
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Originally posted by XTexan
reply to post by GLDNGUN
 


It proves that the Kenyan BC is VERY easy to forge... It has no markings or seals to prevent it.

I simply posted it to show that ANYONE with the motivation could have forged it.

Its not empirical proof of a forge no, but does go to show how easy it is to do... Much easier than a Hawaii one...

[edit on 3-8-2009 by XTexan]


Sorry, but there IS a seal on the purported Obama Kenyan BC in the lower left-hand corner. There is NOT a seal on the blank BC form somebody downloaded from DU.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:50 AM
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reply to post by XyZeR
 


Darn it XyZeR ... you can't give it all away like that all at once ...

We could have had them going for days.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:53 AM
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It was factcheck.org that examined the Hawaii BC and the site is still there. I have yet to see any proof that its a fake.


Originally posted by squidboyMust add, the second I saw Google Censoring stuff relating to this very topic, I have a feeling this may be a vital smoking gun.


Just to be fair I went to the site despite the warning and it crashed my IE all 5 times I tried. I hear it works for others but it didn't for me.


Originally posted by GLDNGUN
Sorry, but there IS a seal on the purported Obama Kenyan BC in the lower left-hand corner. There is NOT a seal on the blank BC form somebody downloaded from DU.


Ah yes, I see that now, my mistake

[edit on 3-8-2009 by XTexan]



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:56 AM
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Check and mate.

Time to move on, people.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by schrodingers dog
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Darn it XyZeR ... you can't give it all away like that all at once ...

We could have had them going for days.


Well.....Some will despite the evidence placed before them, all so you can keep laughing



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:58 AM
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Originally posted by schrodingers dog
reply to post by GLDNGUN
 


Mmm, safe in the knowledge that you will not heed it, this is my advice to you ...

You have an opportunity to stop now before your membership here is forever defined by backing the deadest horse on the history of horses.

Whether you choose to open your eyes and ears, hour after hour I and others have added more evidence to show what an obvious hoax this is.

I have other evidence to add, but I am having too much fun trickling it down to the likes of you cause quite frankly, I enjoy watching the hamsters in your heads trying to find your way around the facts in order to justify yourselves and the horse you backed.

But like I said, no need to believe me, you should go right ahead and go all in on this "issue" and see where it takes you.


I'm not sure what's worse: Naivety on the other person's part or arrogance on your part.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:58 AM
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Originally posted by Janitor From Mars
Check and mate.

Time to move on, people.


Not so fast...

I don't think I believe that you're from Mars...



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:59 AM
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I'm tired of these people citing constitutional decrees when SO much of our consitution is outdated, twisted, and in major need of a 21st century overhaul.

Those who dont like a black man in office will use and viciously defend whatever fodder they can get their hands on to get their country back in the hands of an elitest rich white guy who will again take all our money and spread it around amongst his closest friends. (See History.)

Those who think this isn't about racism, bull. I rescently moved from California to Arizona and its night and day. In California the general attitude amongst everyone I met was Obama can do no wrong. As soon as I get to AZ I'm shocked by the drastic difference. I can't find a single Obama supporter in this entire state and whats worse, I hear this in some form from just about everyone I meet.

"Obama is the antichrist, hes the reason for the 2012 end"
"Obama is a terrorist hes going to let his friends into the country"
"Obama stole the election by forcing black people to vote and whites to vote for him so they dont get called racist"
"Obama is converting us to (heard: Communism, facism, marxism(a lot), socialism, totalitarianism) but we're going to impeach him and take back capitalism and christianity for america"
"Obama is a Muslim and he will throw Christians in slave camps, they're already being built"


This is the kind of stuff I hear on a daily basis from all manner of strangers and otherwise intelligent people. I try not to let it get to me but GROW UP. There was no .5% voter difference trickery or massive black movement that won this election, black people are 13% of the country, so its still us WHITE PEOPLE who put him in office. If you don't like Obama keep your mouth shut and stop interupting the more important operations of this country by forcing the president to defend his potition every 5 minutes. I would hope we're better than that as a people, and if we're not, hopefully you guys will either go away, or I will. I simply have reached my end of this bible thumping subversively racist crap I hear on a daily basis.

I would love for Socialism to take hold just so to show these idiots it doesn't mean government assigned jobs and forced labor camps. IT MEANS A SLIGHTLY HIGHER TAX IN EXCHANGE FOR THE COMMON WELL BEING OF THE REST OF THE POPULATION. For examples of socialism's success please see Canada and France.

IF you are unwilling to pay 3% more income tax in order to insure everyone has healthcare and a place to live (yes even the "lazy" ones) you've clearly never fallen on hard times and needed help and for that I HOPE you lose your jobs and find out just what it feels like to live in a cold ultra competitive capitalist society. When your hungry and there's 600 applicants for a simple warehouse job its basically like winning the lottery out here, and if you win you get the job and you get to eat, otherwise better luck next time. Find a shade tree and a cardboard sign and try not to die in view of the paying public.

I've made crap money doing highly skilled jobs, I've made 40 bucks an hour WATCHING CONCRETE DRY(NO JOKE) and I've made fair money for a fair days work but in all 3 of those scendarios I paid 35-40% of my paycheck to fica, ssi, and god knows what else and STILL had to buy my own healthcare. I would have gladly paid more taxes to know that everyone I know is taken care of during the hard times. Now during my hard time, I used nothing, no SSI, no Unemployment, no help at all, just my hopes that I'm better than those 600 other people applying for this low paying crap job. Its been 1 3/4ths years since I worked and I'm pretty tired of capitalism let me tell ya.

So all I'm saying is give him a fair shake, if you dont like him because he _might_ make us socialist, understand its a great system, if you don't like him because hes black, kill yourself. If your one of the few _true_ constitutionalist, then go for blood do your thing.

Peace.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:59 AM
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All very good points XyZer. Good research, star for you. I'm awaiting the counter punch, lol




posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by EYE SEE

Originally posted by St Vaast
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Arnie doesn't have an American mother or father.

Obama does.

Jews consider themselves jews if their mother is a jew. It's good enough for them. Why isn't it good enough for Americans ?



We have this little thing called the constitution - basically, to protect us from foreigners trying to do us in1


The Constitution, the oh-so holy American document, hasn't been relevant in YEARS, especially since the Patriot Act passed.

But shhhhhh, some Americans still don't know this, thus swearing by a document that is probably next to the Bible as the most cherished document of Americans.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by Janitor From Mars

I'm not sure what's worse: Naivety on the other person's part or arrogance on your part.


Well ... it's been a long day of dealing with neoconpoopiness ...

So yeah, perhaps I was a tinsy weensie bit snarky.

You're right, I'm sorry, it's my fault.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:12 AM
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89 stars and 138 flags for this?

Really?

reply to post by XyZeR
 



I now skip to the last page of all birther threads, because usually the hoax or weak assertion is busted by then and someone with common sense and deductive reasoning has shattered yet another over zealous attempt to disqualify the president with nothing more than a few "what if's".

Star for you my friend.

You actually proved your point with FACTS, and that is something lacking in these certificate threads.



- Lee



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:12 AM
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Originally posted by Ulala
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That's right.

And Kenya was a British colony until 12th December 1963. This child was born in 1961 ... so the original birth certificate won't be endorsed "Republic of Kenya" at all, it'll have the Royal coat of arms stamped on it.

Another thing.

Although Kenya gained independence from Britain on 12th December 1963 it didn't become a Republic until December 1964 when it's new constitution took effect.

So why does a birth certificate issued in February 1964 have Republic mentioned on it at all ?




No, in many documents it was using "Republic of Kenya" by 1963.

See also a good explanation of another reason "Republic" may have been used.
It's at another board by poster Zantax (post 15351 I think):

forums.hannity.com...



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:12 AM
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Whats funnier than the idea that Obama was not born in Hawaii? John McCain was born IN PANAMA.
Regardless that he was at a "US base" which they claim to be US soil but I tend to think thats the dumbest claim ever, McCain was born outside of the continental US


And the best part is that this is %100 FACT.


en.wikipedia.org...

Just thought I would throw that out there for all these birthers to eat their own puke



[edit on 3-8-2009 by MaynardisGod]





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