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Photo - Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate (political fraud)

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posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:07 PM
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reply to post by Militant1
 

Now Congress is going to change up and say well he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii but that's close enough, I don't think so.

If he was born in Kenya he does not qualify to be Presendent, under United States Laws at that time.




posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Electro38
This whole thread was much more a lesson for me in sociology than anything to do with the constitution.

I really don't believe our modern gov. gives a crap about the constitution. When the gov. makes overt infringments on our constitutional rights where the hell are all of the people in this thread?

Wire tapping, censorship. Do we really have free speech?

But here's the first black pres and wow, we're trying like nuts to dig up documents, etc. Searching for anything that could be used against Obama, anything! That's really amazing. Speaks volumes.

My opinion is this has nothing to do with the constitution.


Wrong.

But you're right when you say the government doesn't give a crap about the Constitution. That's why we have to.

Obama is a bit player in a much larger show. But he (or his handlers) screwed up.

Time to pay the piper and start following the rules.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Electro38

Originally posted by mikerussellus
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I honestly believe that we are protecting the Constitution.


Well what about the other infringements being perpetrated on the constitution? Are you so actively trying to defend those issues?

Maybe you are, I'm just asking.


Do you mean Obama's intent to overtake nearly every sector of society, so that you won't be able to go to the bathroom without government permission?

Maybe you are. I'm just asking.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Cloudsinthesky
reply to post by Electro38
 


Don't you just love hamburgers and hotdogs.........I prefer katchup on mine.......sometimes a little mustard. Do you like chips?.........Beer with as well .........I also like porkchops.....

So what does all of this do with this thread.........NOTHING!!!

Just like all of you crappy post.............

STAY ON TOPIC or create your on thread to discuss the constitution!!

D***A**

[edit on 2-8-2009 by Cloudsinthesky]


He's pointing out that most of birthers are hypocrites and this whole thing is stupid.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by drock905
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I agree it probably will destroy the country, but I still think the republicans would try it. It may be a pyrrhic victory but I think they are so arogant they would convince themselves otherwise.


Which ones are trying it? Most republicans I know of just want this to go away. So WHO are you talking about? Your strawmen GOP?



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:10 PM
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Everyone one of you need to stop and think about the possible outcome of this.

THIS DAMN THING IS NOT ABOUT RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT IS ABOUT RIGHT AND WRONG, IT IS ABOUT ABIDING BY THE LAW AND BREAKING IT. IT IS ABOUT THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

IT IS ABOUT HONOR AND INTEGRITY, TRUTH AND LOYALTY.

AND A SIMPLE PIECE OF PAPER THAT PROVES THE PLACE OF BIRTH OF A MAN IN QUESTION.

IT IS THAT SIMPLE AND HAS BEEN SINCE HE SURFACED AND SINCE ABOUT 2:50 AM ON JANUARY 20TH 2009 WHEN A MOTION WAS FILED IN A FEDERAL COURT ON THIS VERY ISSUE. HE AND THEY HAVE BEEN DODGING IT EVER SINCE.

WHERE WOULD WE BE TODAY IF COLIN POWELL WERE PRESIDENT?

I would have voted for him over any other person running. I will bet he would not have had a problem showing his original birth certificate.


PEOPLE A STORM IS BREWING INSIDE THESE BORDERS, BE SMART AND TRUE TO YOUR NEIGHBOR AND DO THEM NO HARM FOR THEY ARE NOT YOUR ENEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We as a nation are a good nation and a good people and if given the chance we are good to each other and will stand strong together as a nation of good people.

WE MUST DEMAND PROOF OF BOTH OF THESE DOCUMENTS AND SEE THE OUTCOME.

WE MUST AND WILL HOLD OUR REPRESENTITIVES ACCOUNTABLE WHAT EVER PARTY FOR THEY ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN ON THEIR WATCH.

NO MORE BULL# FROM OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE AND SPEAKING THE WISHES AND VIEWS OF THEIR REGION.

Watching,

Eye of Eagle



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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I hate racism and hypocrisy

just because you hate racism doesn't make us racists and hipocrisy?tell me who is more hypocritical than obama? can you say transparent?



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by GLDNGUN

Originally posted by drock905
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I agree it probably will destroy the country, but I still think the republicans would try it. It may be a pyrrhic victory but I think they are so arogant they would convince themselves otherwise.


Which ones are trying it? Most republicans I know of just want this to go away. So WHO are you talking about? Your strawmen GOP?


Well judging by the integrity and the standard operating procedures of the Republican party of the last decade, clearly it would be below them to do such thing. After all if the Republicans are anything, it's ethical.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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I'll say this & move on to other posts. I looked at both documents & can honestly say I have no clue which, if either of them is real. What I do know is IMO the people of this country have the right to know!

I hope this case goes forward, I hope both of these documents are examined to provide the people with a difinative answer so we can all move on to other things that are destroying this country.

(And FYI, I'm not from the south, I'm not a republican or conservative, I'm not white & I'm not a racist.) Did I cover everything there?



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by Cloudsinthesky
reply to post by Electro38
 


Don't you just love hamburgers and hotdogs.........I prefer katchup on mine.......sometimes a little mustard. Do you like chips?.........Beer with as well .........I also like porkchops.....

So what does all of this do with this thread.........NOTHING!!!

Just like all of your crappy post.............

STAY ON TOPIC or create your on thread to discuss the constitution!!

D***A**

[edit on 2-8-2009 by Cloudsinthesky]

[edit on 2-8-2009 by Cloudsinthesky]


I'm sorry ff you can't understand what I'm saying or how its relevant to the topic.

I'll wait for a forum moderator to tell me that.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:12 PM
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I'm getting into this about 35 pages too late.

Did anyone address the issue of the Kenyan Birth Certificate being in English?

Is English the language of official business in Kenya?



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by Electro38
This whole thread was much more a lesson for me in sociology than anything to do with the constitution.

I really don't believe our modern gov. gives a crap about the constitution. When the gov. makes overt infringments on our constitutional rights where the hell are all of the people in this thread?

Wire tapping, censorship. Do we really have free speech?

But here's the first black pres and wow, we're trying like nuts to dig up documents, etc. Searching for anything that could be used against Obama, anything! That's really amazing. Speaks volumes.

My opinion is this has nothing to do with the constitution.


Yes, you have made your opinion very clear friend. I think by now we all realize you are in this thread for the sociological aspects.

If one were to expand upon that sociological aspect a bit, however, it would seem that you fall into a very predictable grouping as well. Primarily that of a race card playing white apologist.

Not at all to sound rude but what you fail to consider is that it isn't just a certain demographic calling for full disclosure on this matter. Not all blacks are enamored with this individual either. I'm a black american conservative and I'm certainly not the only one and we, too, would like to see Obama do the right thing and clarify this matter once and for all.

In fact, it is well passed time he do so, if only to silence his critics.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by genius/idoit
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I hate racism and hypocrisy

just because you hate racism doesn't make us racists and hipocrisy?tell me who is more hypocritical than obama? can you say transparent?


Friend, I never said you were racist.

I was just stating a personal fact, I really do hate those things.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by Electro38
This whole thread was much more a lesson for me in sociology than anything to do with the constitution.

I really don't believe our modern gov. gives a crap about the constitution. When the gov. makes overt infringments on our constitutional rights where the hell are all of the people in this thread?

Wire tapping, censorship. Do we really have free speech?

But here's the first black pres and wow, we're trying like nuts to dig up documents, etc. Searching for anything that could be used against Obama, anything! That's really amazing. Speaks volumes.

My opinion is this has nothing to do with the constitution.


I think your right to an extent but it isn't about racism.What scares people is socialism this isn't the first time in American history this occurred . This is almost an exact repeat of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt there were scandals being tossed around people were working to get him removed from office.And one of there arguments was his health during his 4th term and he is also the reason term limits were set for the president people didnt want a repeat. Its funny how history repeats itself some times.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:14 PM
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Wow nice point as the Supreme Court does define laws, however as long as a law passed by congress does not infinge on the constitution the Supreme Court can't/ won't over turn it. As the consitution offers no definition of the term natural born citizen what exactly would be the argument if congress did define it? Congresses definitation would have to be considered unconstitutional in order for the Supreme court to over turn it. What exactly are you going to compare it too? There is absoulty nothing in the US Constitution that defines the term natural born. That being said the Supreme Court would have nothing to compare a modern definition too, and thus could not rule it unconstitutional.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:15 PM
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Still haven't heard anyone answer my repeated postings of this.

www.washingtonmonthly.com...




posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:16 PM
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I agree.
Both documents warrant an explanation and investigation.
Both look real, but im certain one isnt.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:16 PM
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Can anyone just answer me one question? Why not just get all the evidence on BOTH sides and settle this in court once and for all? Why is the administration doing everything in its power to keep this away from the court system?



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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Another Reminder - There is to be no discussion of other members.

Remain on topic, which is "Photo - Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate".

There really is no reason to assume that a fellow poster is a rascist by questioning the validity of the Birth Certificate and indeed there is no logical necessitation of the race card.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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I think being Owned by Great Britian back then they would have uesd English, like in english from england.



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