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Photo - Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate (political fraud)

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posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by die_another_day
OP where did you find this, please give a link on your 1st post.

I can't tell you. The source, at this point, doesn't want to come forward.
I did NOT get it off an internet site ... that's all I can say.
I have sent correspondence to the source and asked questions.
I'll post the answers when they come in.



well then... good luck.


seriously, who are you? how is anyone able to get their hands on this.

[edit on 8/2/2009 by die_another_day]




posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:21 PM
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reply to post by CuriousSkeptic
 



Does that mean Germans who went to Nazi rallies back in the day aren't responsible?

You can't hold the German people responsible for what the Nazi higher ups did. The vast majority of Germans were clueless. So, no, you can't hold the Germans back then responsible. Much like you can't hold Americans responsible for the things that the leaders choose to do.


I don't get it, every prominent news source and even retarded conservative pundits say this is stupid yet you people just a keep a rollin' along.

Because there are unanswered questions and Obama isn't being entirely transparent. This would all go away if he just released something other than his COLB.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:21 PM
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Forgery.

The shown is February, 1964. Kenya was not known as "Republic of Kenya" until December, 1964. The date is a Saturday.....are government offices open on Saturdays?



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:23 PM
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Gah. I never said that you can't form your own opinions. It's just foolish to say that a movement is motivated by racism when there is no way of proving that it is.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by CuriousSkeptic


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For instance, why was this thread removed?

Someone's going a little power happy with the thread removal button.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by andrewh7
 


Show the the hard facts that this document is forged?
Show me the facts that the one presented by Hawaii isnt bogus?


This bothers me... Why is it that we must prove the Kenyan BC a forge, and we must prove the Hawaii BC is legit.

Just saying, it sounds like a double standard... The Hawaii BC has not been proved a forgery.

Obviously one of them is a forgery of course. It just seems strange that with one everyone yells that its a forgery even though it has been looked at by several different institutions, while the other which has been looked at by noone is claimed to be legit...



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:26 PM
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February 17, 1964 was a Monday.

solarsystem.nasa.gov...



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posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by die_another_day

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by die_another_day
OP where did you find this, please give a link on your 1st post.

I can't tell you. The source, at this point, doesn't want to come forward.
I did NOT get it off an internet site ... that's all I can say.
I have sent correspondence to the source and asked questions.
I'll post the answers when they come in.



well then... good luck.


seriously, who are you? how is anyone able to get their hands on this.

[edit on 8/2/2009 by die_another_day]



Chances are it isn't authentic.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by octotom
reply to post by Electro38
 


Gah. I never said that you can't form your own opinions. It's just foolish to say that a movement is motivated by racism when there is no way of proving that it is.


But you have been saying that my opinions are invalid. I just need to know which opinions I should have in order for them to be valid here?

(I'm also just teasing you a little, no hard feelings).



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:27 PM
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lol i don't understand your logic, are you even a U.S. citizen? Only because your comments would make SO MUCH more sense if you weren't.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by octotom
reply to post by Electro38
 


Gah. I never said that you can't form your own opinions. It's just foolish to say that a movement is motivated by racism when there is no way of proving that it is.


Ok, I know it's not completely motivated by racism, but I believe there is some element of racism. That's all I'm saying.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:30 PM
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Because thats the game played by the politics of the left and right party.

What you said in your post was what i was trying to underline. Perhaps i didnt articulate myself well enough to bring that point home.

Im just trying to figure out why we must accept one and totally dismiss the other when really, how do we know?

It will require so much more investigation .......OR "someone" could just release the original longform and be done with it.....like has been stated ad nauseum



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:30 PM
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I find it hard to believe that Orly Taitz (a native Russian), who has fought so long and hard to bring this to task; would attempt to put up a forgery as proof.


Not to mention Keyes.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Electro38

Originally posted by octotom
reply to post by Electro38
 


Gah. I never said that you can't form your own opinions. It's just foolish to say that a movement is motivated by racism when there is no way of proving that it is.


Ok, I know it's not completely motivated by racism, but I believe there is some element of racism. That's all I'm saying.


Yes friend, there are racist on both sides of the fence, no doubt about that.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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I wasnt aware any courts would be doing business on saturday or sunday for that matter. ?. My attempt to link the above met with and adobe reader 8 has stopped working window. You hit THE nerve! nice shooting tex!



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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*snip*

About the original post, it's just silly. I could make a similar photo in 10 minutes or less and post it.

The people who desperately claim the legitimacy of this are simply people who are racists and can not accept that a black person is their commander in chief...

 


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posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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You are correct. The date was forged correctly. The document is still a forgery because of the "Republic of Kenya" name.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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I think some are losing the topic of the thread...

A civil action was filed on AUG 1 by Atty Taitz in the US District Court for the Central District of California Santa Anna (Southern) Division

in regards to an image of an alleged Kenyan Certified Copy of Registration of Birth which you can see here:

files.abovetopsecret.com...

The court filing can be viewed here:

www.scribd.com...

and another one requesting the removal of 2 of the plaintiffs here:

www.scribd.com...

If there are any members who can check out the filing and relay what exactly is being requested it would be much appreciated.

So far there is a discrepancy noted in the fact that Kenya was not formally a Republic until 12DEC64 and the document in question was signed in FEB of 64 bearing the name Republic of Kenya, some are saying that this may have been done during the transition period prior to the official vote in December, however nothing has surfaced to corroborate this theory.

So, if this filing has occurred, does anyone know how long it might take for it to be heard in court? Could it be summarily rejected? Is this filing just a request to obtain an actual hardcopy of a Kenyan BC if it exists?

If I have missed some detail on this topic please post updates










[edit on 8/2/2009 by JacKatMtn]



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:34 PM
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Well hopefully this leads to him releasing the long form, this debate is causing a rift in America and on this site... Though I fear, if he does, it will be labeled a forgery and the debate will continue...

Someone mentioned earlier that they expect some type of issue to occur that changes focus from this new BC.

My personal opinion is that this BC was released in order to occupy people while other things are done behind the scenes. Just my thoughts though.



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