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Photo - Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate (political fraud)

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posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by Truth4hire

Originally posted by tonygal
what is this???




nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com...


Page 5377 of book 44b.


my lord that link proove's it 120% he was born in kenya.

doctor's name time of birth ect....
The man was born in kenya........Not Hawaii

OMG is that real?




posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by craig732
I would probably believe there is a real, vault-copy of a Hawaii Birth Certificate if they posted a photograph of it online. Why haven't they?



Their in-house Photoshopper is playing Golf on the Bahamas.

Back next week.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:55 PM
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warm up the bus, obama

line 2: in case people forget, he's half white. For some reason that never gets brought up in these threads



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by TheAmused

Originally posted by Truth4hire

Originally posted by tonygal
what is this???




nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com...


Page 5377 of book 44b.


my lord that link proove's it 120% he was born in kenya.

doctor's name time of birth ect....
The man was born in kenya........Not Hawaii

OMG is that real?


Probably not if you look at the watermark....

I say no, this one is fake. No reason for the funky afrikaans watermark unless someone else can show another kenyan BC on the same paper.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:55 PM
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reply to post by genius/idoit
 


Just hit the refresh button... makes it so much easier.

Now, to mix in some different comments I made on the other BC threads, I pose the same question:

Will it make a difference? Would Obama being removed from office change anything? Will our current state of affairs magically change over night? Will the laws and bills disappear in a poof of smoke?

Short answer: NO.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:56 PM
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reply to post by FlyersFan
 


Why is it in English?



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:58 PM
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I will personally look that issue up. I don't like to make claims I can't back up. I know there is nothing on line (that I can find) but I will double my efforts.
If the case that his articles ARE avaliable, I will formally apologize.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by TheAmused

Originally posted by Truth4hire

Originally posted by tonygal
what is this???




nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com...


Page 5377 of book 44b.


my lord that link proove's it 120% he was born in kenya.

doctor's name time of birth ect....
The man was born in kenya........Not Hawaii

OMG is that real?


Seriously?

I can't read it.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by FlyersFan
 


Why is it in English?


its been told a few pages ago.
Kenya was a british colony back then



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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Why is it in English?

Assuming you're referring to FlyerFans OP, the paper is in English because, they spoke/speak English in Kenya.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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As I said -I have figured that he probably was born in Hawaii but that there is something on his original BC that he doesn't want people to see, and that's why he's been fighting showing it.


Touchy subjects are dealt with in court all the time especially with children. A closed door in chambers session would protect privacy AND answer the question. That is why I do not give much weight to this reason. Besides politicos KNOW their past is subject to microscopic dissection if he did not like it he should never have gone into politics. Of course since the Main Media is bought and paid for and so is the Republican Party he may not have been expecting it.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by The Soothsayer
reply to post by genius/idoit
 


Just hit the refresh button... makes it so much easier.

Now, to mix in some different comments I made on the other BC threads, I pose the same question:

Will it make a difference? Would Obama being removed from office change anything? Will our current state of affairs magically change over night? Will the laws and bills disappear in a poof of smoke?

Short answer: NO.


It may actually because Obama is one charismatic dude and can pretty much sell anything to the public with his smile. If he is booted chances are the replacement will not be nearly as sharp and regardless they won't have had the years of press that Obama did so in other words they will have trouble selling anything.

Obama is like a celebrity because of the media attention he has gotten there is no way they can replace him with someone as effective.

Remember the President is there to sell us policy they are Salesmen thats all.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by TheAmused

Originally posted by Truth4hire

Originally posted by tonygal
what is this???




nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com...


Page 5377 of book 44b.


my lord that link proove's it 120% he was born in kenya.

doctor's name time of birth ect....
The man was born in kenya........Not Hawaii

OMG is that real?


Seriously?

I can't read it.


OK, this "B.C." mentioned above is a clear fake.

It says in the watermark in DUTCH

DIT IS GEEN GELDIG DOCUMENT VAN DE OVERHEID

Which translateds to

THIS IS NOT A VALID GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT

The rest is jibberish Dutch/Afrikaans.

Why Dutch, Why Jibberish.

Fake.

The COPY posted by OP however looks very real and should be easily verified by looking into the archives. Until then, the rest is speculation.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:03 PM
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I agree with flyers fan if this forces obama to put up a"reaL birth certificate"to refute this one it will have to have some info on there he didn't want us to see.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:04 PM
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My turn to finally jump, I've read the whole thread and lots of comments disgust me. Anyway on to the topic at hand.

Is this real? I don't know. That is what people are doing trying to figure it out. The fact of the matter is, all Obama has to do is show is real birth certificate and it will all end.

We all will have no choice to believe he is a natural born citizen, it's that simple. Every excuse in the book has been given, my favorite one by far has to be the one about how even if he does show it people won't believe him, so there is no point in showing it.

This is the skinny of it, if he is not a natural born citizen then all legislation that he has signed will be null and void. There would be a massive investigation, or even worse there would be a mass exodus of politicians from the country.

The fact is we don't know, if he was born in Hawaii, Kenya, or Timbuktu, or maybe something is on his Hawaii BC that he wants to hide, something really damning like his real father being Frank Marshal Davis, that would prove he was raised by a communist and he is still a communist to this day and his approval rating his ability to pass his agenda would drop like a lead balloon.

Either way, he can put the whole issue to rest by providing his real birth certificate. But he doesn't and won't. So the longer he waits the more people are going to dig and the more people are going to find about the past he wants hidden.

Something needs to be done to put the issue to rest.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:04 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by The Soothsayer

Will it make a difference? Would Obama being removed from office change anything? Will our current state of affairs magically change over night? Will the laws and bills disappear in a poof of smoke?


Depends. If the photographed document in the OP is real and not a forgery, then him being removed would mean that someone ineligible to be president has been removed from that position. If the document is real, then he needs to be removed. So yes, it would make a difference. Nothing would magically change overnight, but at least we'd have a chance of hitting reverse and getting off the road Obama is putting us on. The laws and bills would be invalid, so they wouldn't be enforceable. About as close to disappearing in a puff of smoke as you can get I think.

Again, that all depends on the document being real and not forged.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Truth4hire

The COPY posted by OP however looks very real and should be easily verified by looking into the archives. Until then, the rest is speculation.


What on earth are you talking about?

It's a freeper fake ...

Or did you miss those few crucial posts where this was pointed out?



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:07 PM
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No one has mentioned race except obama supporters ,their first last and only argument



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:08 PM
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WHY are you so intent on making this a RACE issue? You evidently really have some hangups. I don't know about anyone else, but when I see Barack Obama I don't see a "black" guy. I just see a guy, and the fact is that he is much a WHITE guy as he is a black guy. His mommy was white and his daddy was black, right? It's kind of funny that when he first got in the race and nobody thought he had a chance, a lot of blacks, especially the leaders, were backing Hillary. Why? First, they didn't think Obama could win. Secondly, the dirty little secret is because many of them didn't consider him "black" enough, since he had a white momma. Then, when he got the momentum, they all jumped on his bandwagon as if they were with him all the way. And now, when anyone questions Obama or whether he's eligible to be President, it's the whites accused of racism. Hilarious!

Again, your fixation on race is tiring. Go start another thread. This thread is about this document. Is it legit? I don't know.

Here's the real question for you - IF Obama is not eligible to be President (whether or not this document is legit), do you think he should be removed? Or should we just ignore the Constitution?

Or maybe your argument is "Well, the bushies ignored the Constitution, so can we!"

BRILLIANT.



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