Photo - Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate (political fraud)

Originally posted by XyZeR
Here's a funny way to make your own version if you want to:

Kenyan birthcertificate generator

*warning making these could lead to a bunch of delusional birthers believing the one you made is in fact "real"

Hasn't that already been posted like several posts back??

I’d use it to make my own little birth cert only it’s not consistent, its a mixture of the Kenyan one and Australian one, the one generated comes up with a south Australian coat of arms at the top but says coast province next to it?, it says republic of Kenya at the bottom but has an Australian seal and it says it’s issued in coast province but in the paragraph it’s issued in a state.... shame who ever made the site didn’t do a better effort of it.

At least the Kenyan and Australian one had consistency (both fake or not, lol).

Oh well.

Mikey



[edit on 6/8/2009 by Mikey84]

I found the REAL Obama birth certificate!

kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com...

reply to post by jhotrod


1) I dont think that literally means they're in a book. The index is probably in a book and the BC's themselves in shelves. If they're literally in a book it can span trough many books.
2) Maybe so in US, how you recon it's the same in Australia and/or Kenya?

Common sense indeed

[edit on 6/8/2009 by PsykoOps]

Page 100 seems like a great place for my final post in this thread.

As of this writing if you type the NAME of the file that the OP presented into Google, you'll get over 100 hits. Primarily from blogs and other discussion forums which likely are generating the same volume as here on ATS. Estimating conservatively, thousands and thousands of "impressions" by those in the forums who then will most likely parrot this claim of a Kenyan BC, fake or not. (These are ONLY the ones linking to the image from OP hosted here on ATS.)

www.google.com...

This folks has been an effective DISINFO campaign. Much in the same way the OP "received" the image and has yet to provide a SOURCE, this will likely spread along with all the other lies about Obama.

Sadly, inasmuch as we think we "solved" this little charade, we have actually fueled it and helped it spread as both willing and unwilling participants. Duped. Going forward, I invite the OP and others to qualify their threads, offer a valid source or perform their own due diligence prior to posting. Either way they should be accountable.

Honestly I've learned a lot about deception, ignorance and the power of DISINFO. I'll let you all decide if it was "fun."

I'll leave with an open invitation to OP to provide a SOURCE.

At that point we can discuss the WHO / WHY and not the HOW.

Kind Regards. . . kk

[edit on 6-8-2009 by kinda kurious]

Does The King of the World Need A Birth Certificate?

The debut of Obama at the UN is happening right on schedule. Obama will chair “a special meeting of the U.N, Security Council on nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament”; that meeting will take place on Sept. 24 during the annual summit of the U.N. General Assembly.

Is anyone else thinking that somewhere there are a few high ups laughing as we are so distracted by this?

Surely I am not the only one...

[edit on 6-8-2009 by burntheships]

I haven't watched these yet so i can't comment, But it seems relevant to this thread.

Enjoy.

Part 1



Part 2



Part 3



Part 4



Part 5

If one accepts the simplest explanation is the most likely when it comes to explaining the motive behind this poor forgery then I offer the following . The source of the forgery decided to have a bit of fun and watch the flock of lap up the fake birth certificate all the while he/she sat back on their ass laughing . The problem now for the source of the forgery and who ever knows that persons ID is that the law doesnt look to friendly on such stunts .

Make no mistake this is a poor forgery . Allied POW who were looking to break out of German POW camps produced far better forged documents without the aid of Photoshop .In terms of the hoax the forged Birth Certificate is something akin one of those Phishing emails that does the rounds .

reply to post by oneclickaway

Originally posted by oneclickaway
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh

 

On a different note, and not directed at CS . . . . why does the South Australian BC not have the correct coat of arms?

Even more interesting is why does the Aussie one have a modern '1' on the date 10th April...when apparently typewriters then did not have a '1'...and they had to use a small L to denote a '1'. And before everyone says rubbish....why does the rest of the BC use the small L for every other number one.
Let alone that the writing is above the creases.
Still, the Bomford man said it was his original copy so it must be...

Good find! Did anyone ever answer this? I didn't see an answer. While I don't think that discrepancy proves it's a fake or doctored, it does raise questions.

Also the interview with Bomford where he said "Yes that's mine", how do we know what he was looking at? Maybe he was looking at something different than we are, the document was removed from the site quickly so I don't know what they showed him.

Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by oneclickaway
reply to post by HunkaHunka

 

And this is where your theory falls apart, because the Australian Birth Certificate has been on line since 2006.

If that were the case it was faked in 2006 then. Maybe they were psychic.

As I had posted before, WHO IS search revealed the Bomford site was launched in 2005

Whether the Bomford site was launched in 2005 or 2006, what we really need to know is not when the site was launched, but when the specific document in question was placed there. That Australian BC document disappeared so quickly that we didn't have a chance to determine that.

Right now I don't know if just the Kenyan BC is fake or if the Australian BC is also a fake. (I'm sure that at least one is fake and maybe both are, and I'm not sure whether or not what we've seen is Bomford's real BC). An interview transcript with Bomford saying "yes that's mine" isn't really convincing unless we know what he's looking at when he says that.

reply to post by ken10


You haven't watched them yourself so you decide to post several videos anyway?



Well then I'm sure as heck not watching them if you haven't even taken the time...

I just watched the videos I found it good. Worth a watch.

I understand that both oz and Kenyan cert could both be fake but try and look at it this way

Let’s say the Kenyan is fake and I faked it. It would be silly, sloppy and I would run the risk of it been exposed as a fake if I copied names and numbers from a legit cert. (oz cert?)

But if the Kenyan one is real and I wanted to discredit it I would then make a fake one(oz?) copy names from the Kenyan and put it on the oz one .the say hay look the Kenyan one is fake.

reply to post by Ulala


They can't compel another country but they can request things through the appropriate channels. One is an attempt at force, and that would surely fail since they have no jurisdiction there, and the other is pretty much just asking nicely and saying please. Whether or not it would work, I don't know, but asking can't hurt.

reply to post by HunkaHunka


I was watching part of the first one when i posted, which is why i thought it seemed relevant to this thread.

Now i have finished watching all of it and found it quite good. I'm not American so i'm not too familiar with your politics and that part of the video i won't try and comment on.

However a few good points were raised, I liked the one where in a form Obama had filled out he clearly failed to declare his previous alias (Barry Soetoro) ?

I'm sorry but there is way too many questions surrounding this man.....And i know it was ground-breaking having a non-white person in the White-house and all, Even i was glad to see you in the US getting away from the powerful bloodline families of the Bushes/Clintons et al.

But this man is an unknown quantity, I don't know if he is a Christian or a Muslim or a Socialist/Communist or a Fascist........Do you ?

I hope people are wrong about him and maybe at present he is just breaking a few eggs to eventually make an omelette......I dunno.

But since the US policy effects the whole World i hope you don't get conned.

The Obama administration is trying to silence regular citizens for opposing Government run health care. Just imagine the lengths they are going to to try to stop investigations into his birthplace?

CitizenTroy...
Thanks so much for your post! It makes ALOT of sense, and I feel it should be looked into very carefully!!!
Kudo's to your summary!

Originally posted by ken10
reply to post by HunkaHunka

 

I was watching part of the first one when i posted, which is why i thought it seemed relevant to this thread.

Now i have finished watching all of it and found it quite good. I'm not American so i'm not too familiar with your politics and that part of the video i won't try and comment on.

The first two videos and part of the last one are on topic to this thread, parts of the 3rd and 4th videos are but much of those are off the topic of this thread, but since the overall series is over 50% on topic, I'd say it's appropriate in this thread.

I thought a couple of things were interesting in the videos. The factchecck.org site that people say put this issue to bed actually does say they asked HI why they don't offer the long form and they never got an answer.

We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

www.factcheck.org...
Obviously Hawaii only issues the short form and that's what we've got and it's official. But as stated in the video it would be so easy for Obama to send a letter to Hawaii to release the details that Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified..." that aren't in the short form. Even the non-birthers have to be a little curious about what Obama may be hiding by NOT providing that authorization to release details of his birth, even if it's got nothing to do with his eligibility for office. Apparently the only 2 people on earth who have seen the details of Obama's birth are Chiyome Fukino and Alvin Onaka? So much for the transparency we were promised.

Also Dr Alan Keyes is featured a lot in these videos raising questions about why Obama won't just release the long form, and since he's an African American I think race is not an issue at all for him and I hope for 99% of the others who have questions about what Obama is hiding.

While the videos don't specifically discuss the Kenyan BC, I think if the HI long form BC was released, then the Kenyan BC would be a non-issue, and the video does talk a lot about release of the HI long form BC and asks why Obama hasn't authorized it.

It would sure be nice if Obama would authorize Hawaii to release the details to silence all the lefties, and all the righties, and even the people in the middle like me who have no agenda but just wonder what he's hiding.

6 minutes into the last video the white house press secretary evaded the question of why Obama hasn't sent a letter to Hawaii authorizing release of his birth details (long form or whatever they have) and said hopefully the issue will be resolved by Obama's 4th year in office? That seemed like a strange answer to me, but maybe I'm reading too much into it. Does that mean they plan to continue to evade the question for the first 3 years and finally get around to answering it by the 4th year?

Originally posted by RRconservative
The Obama administration is trying to silence regular citizens for opposing Government run health care. Just imagine the lengths they are going to to try to stop investigations into his birthplace?

The lies are exploding in here. Anyone that has seen any news over the last few days knows very well that people are going to the town halls and being heard more than anyone else. People paying attention also know that most of these people come from other districts and none of them has anything to actually say. They just get loud and disrupt as well as prevent any opposing voice from being heard. It may be legal but it is not right and certainly not respectful of people or democracy but it is happening. How exactly is Obama trying to silence anyone when we can all see this stuff going on and no one is being arrested, carried out, or tazed.

Originally posted by iammonkey
I just watched the videos I found it good. Worth a watch.

I understand that both oz and Kenyan cert could both be fake but try and look at it this way

Let’s say the Kenyan is fake and I faked it. It would be silly, sloppy and I would run the risk of it been exposed as a fake if I copied names and numbers from a legit cert. (oz cert?)

But if the Kenyan one is real and I wanted to discredit it I would then make a fake one(oz?) copy names from the Kenyan and put it on the oz one .the say hay look the Kenyan one is fake.

Except for the fact that we have someone that actually belongs to the austrailian bc and we have no one that belongs to the kenyan one except that fantasy of fanatical right wing nutjbags.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


I have theory of the Aussie BC. As far I know it's not an old document. I haven't seen any claims to that direction. That would explain modern 1's and stuff as such. It might be quite recent for what we know.

reply to post by PsykoOps


I have a copy saved on my desktop, it says it's from 1964. And the '1' in '10th' is completely different from the rest of the 1's in the document as another poster pointed out.


EDIT: I also have both of the Kenyan versions on my desktop and I noticed just now that the paper is different on both. One version shows a tear along one of the folds and rough edges like it's been torn out of a book or the background has been horribly edited out, the other doesn't. Anyone else notice that?

[edit on 6-8-2009 by Jenna]

Ok. I don't have the Aus one anywhere. That's just the first thought I had.