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"Bin Laden worked for USGov until 911" says FBI Whistleblower

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posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:26 AM
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Not sure if this has been posted. A FBI whistleblower (Sibel Edmonds ) claims to know that Bin Laden was working for USGov right up to 911. In other words, after Embassy bombing, USS Cole, WTC'92 etc.




Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds dropped a bombshell on the Mike Malloy radio show, guest-hosted by Brad Friedman (audio, partial transcript).

In the interview, Sibel says that the US maintained 'intimate relations' with Bin Laden, and the Taliban, "all the way until that day of September 11."

These 'intimate relations' included using Bin Laden for 'operations' in Central Asia, including Xinjiang, China. These 'operations' involved using al Qaeda and the Taliban in the same manner "as we did during the Afghan and Soviet conflict," that is, fighting 'enemies' via proxies.

As Sibel has previously described, and as she reiterates in this latest interview, this process involved using Turkey (with assistance from 'actors from Pakistan, and Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia') as a proxy, which in turn used Bin Laden and the Taliban and others as a proxy terrorist army.



Source.

Who is Brad Friedman (Bradblog)?
en.wikipedia.org...

ps don't bother flaming me: I'm not a Truther




posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:44 AM
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If you are interested, there is plenty of information about Bin Laden and the US government.

This is a good book:www.amazon.co.uk...

He was not the mad caveman that US media makes him out to be.


[edit on 2-8-2009 by Copernicus]



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 08:27 AM
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bin Laden is dead. But yes, we did work with the mujahadin during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. When the mujahadin became unemployed with the US they found other places to fight because that's what they do. Farm by day, fight by night... part of their commitment to Islam.

Very simple concept that many Westeners don't understand: Islamic principle that if an Islamic land is attacked, jihad becomes fard ayn, or incumbent upon every individual believer to join or to aid in any way he can.

This analysis suggests the final resting place of bin Laden:
www.centerforstrategicanalysis.org...
"the Muslim graveyard (on the way to the Quetta airport where he was buried after the CMH, Combined Military Hospital in Quetta, Pakistan was unable to resuscitate him after his fall in the hills surrounding Zhob)"



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 09:05 PM
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They also used Saddam when he fought Iran (the Israeli`s arming whom ever was losing at the time), done a dirty on him though when he asked if it was okay if he invaded Kuwait the Americans said yeah sure go ahead, then obliterated him, just can`t trust those Americans hey?.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 03:38 AM
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No,he was not what he was an asset as were many other Mujaheddin in Afghanistan back then remember Al Queda when translated into English means database.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 05:10 AM
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Originally posted by JJay55
bin Laden is dead. But yes, we did work with the mujahadin during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. When the mujahadin became unemployed with the US they found other places to fight because that's what they do. Farm by day, fight by night... part of their commitment to Islam.

Very simple concept that many Westeners don't understand: Islamic principle that if an Islamic land is attacked, jihad becomes fard ayn, or incumbent upon every individual believer to join or to aid in any way he can.


1) Bin Laden may or may not be dead.
2) Our involvement with the Mujahideen did not end in 1989, it continued in Central Asia, North Africa, the Balkans, Chechnya, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines and so on.
3) Not all Muslims are the same, your presentation of them is racist nonsense.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by Vinciguerra

Originally posted by JJay55
bin Laden is dead. But yes, we did work with the mujahadin during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. When the mujahadin became unemployed with the US they found other places to fight because that's what they do. Farm by day, fight by night... part of their commitment to Islam.

Very simple concept that many Westeners don't understand: Islamic principle that if an Islamic land is attacked, jihad becomes fard ayn, or incumbent upon every individual believer to join or to aid in any way he can.


1) Bin Laden may or may not be dead.
2) Our involvement with the Mujahideen did not end in 1989, it continued in Central Asia, North Africa, the Balkans, Chechnya, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines and so on.
3) Not all Muslims are the same, your presentation of them is racist nonsense.

1. the best analysists say bin laden is dead. I'm going with them, they've been there. The general public can't know bin ladens' status.
2. The mujhadine is a very closed unit. And they use knives. We have agents in those regions yes.
3. I never said all muslims are the same. Islam expects all muslims to be the same. Islam rules all muslims. Very important to understand the theology. Further, 57 OIC countries have Sharia Law, which makes all muslims subjected to those laws, which they follow unless they leave, and then they are apostates. I am not presenting racist dipiction, don't suggest something that's not there. Very common to cry "racism" when facts are presented.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 09:49 AM
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www.hinduonnet.com...
Islam is not a democracy. Islam is indeed seeking global domination. Islam is not quiet about their goals and objectives. Islam is accomplishing their goals at a timely rate. This is not a conspiracy.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 10:03 AM
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k i'll bite.
how are they going to do this?
I'm sorry but Islam simply does not seem like anything to fear.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by heyo
reply to post by JJay55
 


k i'll bite.
how are they going to do this?
I'm sorry but Islam simply does not seem like anything to fear.



Fear is a choice. I choose not to fear, but instead to be informed.

Is your question how Islam is attempting world domination? First is by hiring AQ to bring democracies in the West to their knees.
911 was the Awakening. In Islamic terms it was an attack to give us 10 years to prepare for full confrontation. This is common knowledge.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 10:33 AM
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"Fear is a choice."

Thanks for clearing that up. And all this time I thought fear was an emotional response and one of our most important survival mechanisms.

Now, of course, there are those groups of humans who use fear (or a false sense of fear) as a weapon to fulfill their agenda. Needless to say, if one has to stoop to this level, their ultimate goals may be a bit questionable.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
"Fear is a choice."

Thanks for clearing that up. And all this time I thought fear was an emotional response and one of our most important survival mechanisms.

Now, of course, there are those groups of humans who use fear (or a false sense of fear) as a weapon to fulfill their agenda. Needless to say, if one has to stoop to this level, their ultimate goals may be a bit questionable.

Who are these groups who use fear as a weapon? AQ, who the US has labeled terrorists, could care less if we are scared. They have their mission and aren't paying attention to our emotional reaction.

The US government is very delicate in warning the American public so they don't spark riots over fear. That scenerio has been tested in the past 5 years by the Department of Homeland Security in a few different incidents with results that indicate that most people aren't fearful.

Again, fear is a choice. You can inform yourself of the threat and know how to protect yourself or you can cower in a corner.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 01:26 PM
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OBL is dead.

I'm pretty sure about this, because Benazir Bhutto was interviewed by David Frost, and named the man who killed him.

What clinches it for me is that the BBC re-broadcast the interview (originally on al-Jazeera IIRC) and cut out the two seconds it took for her to say that.

TPTB obviously need OBL as a bogeyman even if the FBI won't put him on the suspect list for 9/11.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by rich23
OBL is dead.

I'm pretty sure about this, because Benazir Bhutto was interviewed by David Frost, and named the man who killed him.

What clinches it for me is that the BBC re-broadcast the interview (originally on al-Jazeera IIRC) and cut out the two seconds it took for her to say that.

TPTB obviously need OBL as a bogeyman even if the FBI won't put him on the suspect list for 9/11.

Well said.
Yes, Benazir Bhutto's assassination was to keep her quiet. She knew more truths that would nail Islamic leadership and possibly bring them down. Too bad she wasn't better protected. Of course her family did make fortunes off of the cotton business in Pakistan which was in competition with those poppies.
Daniel Pearl also was murdered (beheaded) because he was very close to exposing the ISI as having connections to AQ.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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I guess that's yet another reason why Bhutto was removed from the scene. She was apparently installed by the US/CIA, so she should have a good idea whether OBL was killed or not.

In the past the gas/oil companies had to negotiate with the Taliban to get the gas pipeline working, but when they found out the Taliban were a hard group to negotiate with, Bush Jr. couldn't be bothered with them anymore in 2001.

Now that the Taliban is gaining power again, they feel that they may need to eventually negotiate with them again. There's no way around the Taliban if you want Afghanistan's resources and the right to pull your pipeline across their country.

The following will explain it all in more details:

1. Revolution, geopolitics and pipelines

2. Pipeline Goes Af-Pak

If you read the first two paragraphs of the second article, it will tell you about Unocal's relationship with the Taliban under Bush.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 02:26 PM
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It's all about the pipelines, although it's costing a pretty penny to set up the pipeline system with all those wars, and having to pull the pipeline across the Caspian Sea...what a pain...

So I'm not sure if there will be much of a profit from the wars used to attain the goals in stretching gas pipelines across Pipelinistan.

Soldiers always die for political aims that all boil down to governments' self-interest.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 03:09 PM
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posted by heyo
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k i'll bite.
how are they going to do this?
I'm sorry but Islam simply does not seem like anything to fear.



posted by JJay55
Fear is a choice. I choose not to fear, but instead to be informed.

Is your question how Islam is attempting world domination? First is by hiring AQ to bring democracies in the West to their knees.


Al Qaeda (the Toilet Seat or database) was formed from mujahideen by the CIA to bring Russia to its knees in Afghanistan. The data base was the list of the mujahideen. So did Islam buy Al Qaeda from the CIA? How much did they pay for them? Or did Islam steal Al Qaeda from the CIA?

If Al Qaeda is bringing democracies in the West to their knees, how come when we listened to news reports we learned that at least a thousand 2nd-in-command Al Qaeda leaders were killed in action? How come of their two great leaders, one died of kidney disease way back in December 2001, and the other is in jail? Doesn't sound like they are doing too well in their world conquest by 2020 does it? Seems like with the two 1st-in command leaders out of action and all of the 2nd-in-command leaders deader than a doornail, they might be a little short of good trained leadership.

And how come if Al Qaeda is bringing democracies in the West to their knees, in 8 long years since 9-11, they haven't conquered one single Western nation? Heck they haven't even conquered any nation have they? They've only got 10 and a half years left til 2020, so when do they start conquering?


posted by JJay55
911 was the Awakening. In Islamic terms it was an attack to give us 10 years to prepare for full confrontation. This is common knowledge.


Common knowledge with whom? The fools of this world?

9-11 was an Inside Job by military forces hired by the NWO Elite. So what does Islam have to do with that? So we get a full confrontation with Islam in another year and a half? Are you sure somebody didn't play a trick on you and change the names in your script? It makes no sense at all.



[edit on 8/5/09 by SPreston]



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by JJay55
www.hinduonnet.com...
Islam is not a democracy. Islam is indeed seeking global domination. Islam is not quiet about their goals and objectives. Islam is accomplishing their goals at a timely rate. This is not a conspiracy.



posted on Aug, 5 2009 @ 07:59 PM
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Its amazing how many people do not understand that there were two groups of freedom fighters in Afghanistan. One was mostly Afghans, this was the group that the CIA assisted, through Pakistan. The other group were Arabs hostile to Western influence or interference.



posted on Aug, 6 2009 @ 12:56 AM
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I wish someone would send me a Sibel Edmunds for Christmas. What a babe!



Her's is one of the most tantalizing stories related to 9/11. There are undoubtely many other people out there, like her, with inside information that they cannot divulge. I hope we get her whole story one day.



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