Originally posted by XtraemeQ.E.D. humans need a physical god because "scarcity is the root of all evil" and is unavoidable across
time and space.
I also posted in your other thread so will assume you have read those comments first.
I can see how you arrived at your conclusion and I think your argument is sound based on your assumptions. however I think your assumption that
scarcity is a necessary quality of life is incorrect. I also disagree that we need an external power to make things fair.
In an abundance based system there would be no war-like cultures. Because what reason is there to go to war when you have everything you need? Ideas
and different beliefs. The idea that we need to fight over our beliefs can also be changed.
The main idea that causes war are religions. Gods. Most of our religions and all gods are based on the assumption that humans need a master to look up
to. They've all been created by us in various times in our history based on the idea of scarcity and the assumed need for this external governing
power as you have pointed out (Note I am not saying they aren't real - they are because they are belief systems). In an abundance based system, the
power will be returned to the individual - you will choose where to live, what you do, what you believe. People would be free to explore their own
interests. They will become their own god in a sense. This is because there is no incentive to try to control other people and value is placed back on
individual lives intrinsically rather than the products they can create.
Yes you would need systems to determine how the resources are distributed, but this can be based on need and designed to maximise sustainability and
minimise waste. e.g. Having a global computer network that monitors all resources and distributes them based on requests by people who are undertaking
certain projects. Add in recycling and renewable energy for a truly sustainable system. Perhaps we won't be constructing massive skyscrapers, but
what's the point of that anyway?
As for returning to "ignorance" - how about "innocence" instead? And why can't we return there while still maintaining our current technology? It
is possible in an abundance based system.
So that's earth covered. What about if we run into hostile aliens out there in space?
IMO a race can't become space-faring until they have learned to be sustainable on their own planet and have solved the whole question about living
peacefully with each other. IMO the corner stone of that is free energy.
Assuming for a moment that we don't gain access to FTL travel or "wormhole" technology any time soon (which we might!). Assume also that we have
the technology to do it. Consider the magnitude of building a space ship capable of bringing a colony to even the closest neighbour (Alpha Centauri I
think). IMO it would take a global effort with every person working towards the common goal, not to mention allocating massive amounts of physical
resources. This would simply not be possible if people were still fighting over resources and not cooperating.
The other possibility is for a supreme dictator to take over, enslave the entire population and put them to work on it. However I don't see this
working as when you oppress people you automatically cause rebellions. Rebellions and dissent eventually turn into revolution and the dictatorship
crumbles. Yes even if the NWO succeed I think we still have a fighting chance
So I don't think that other alien races could become space-faring unless they had also figured out this problem.
So basically, I don't think scarcity is a necessity because we can swap to an abundance based system. IMO an abundance based system would promote
both individuality and cooperation as well as making the sole valuable thing on our planet life itself (as it should be!). Therefore we would not need
to look to external leaders and therefore not need physical or theoretical gods.
All of that said though, it would definately be an awesome and humbling sensation to stand in the physical prescence of a god (If we could accept them
as a god being physical and all). I imagine it would overwhelm you with a sense of tranquility and security if they were benevolent, or absolute
terror if they were malevolent.