I'm not a religious person, but I think the fundamental problem with the question
"What will it take for you to Stop Believing in a diety!?
" is that a
belief (i.e. faith) is not falsifiable in any situation.
Somewhat strangely being a life-long agnostic (neither theist or atheist, as I don't think belief should factor in to the question, though I
sympathize with deism
) I was able to rationalize why humans would benefit from a god.
It stems from the Sartrean concept of scarcity. To gain a full understanding of my view of scarcity and how it affects the human condition
(Note: if you don't read the treatise linked above you may fail to accept the primary corollary that makes this logical argument true ...
Working from the belief that scarcity implies a class system and therefore a mode of moral reasoning I thought to myself, "If the Christian God
exists then when he stated that man would fail on his own, he was 100% correct because scarcity is the root of all moral reasoning."
Consider that many millions upon millions of years from now, when humanity has the ability to fundamentally convert matter to energy and energy back
to matter perfectly recycling all transitions; and when man has the ability to replicate & create anything whether it be cloning an exact copy of
yourself, creating a planet, or summoning in to existence a TV or what-have-you:
Scarcity will still exist.
Why? Because there is no way to replicate the exact
instance of the original
Earth. Put another way. There is only one original
. Even if we can recreate Earth exactly as it currently exists and put it in another system, exactly modeled on our current solar system, there
would still be only one original
Thus scarcity still exists as a concept in peoples minds and therefore future people will still need some mechanism to determine resource allocation
(likely a stored social value system like money).
Then I realized "if the Christian God exists and if the abstract concept of Adam and Eve eating from the Tree of knowledge is accurate," then the
only way to do away with scarcity (and therefore class systems & human indignity, since scarcity necessitates a "mode of moral reasoning") is to
return to our original state of ignorance.
However in the process of returning to our state of ignorance we also lose something significant, our ability to understand right from wrong. Thus a
"god" if such a thing could / does exist, would perform the function of making sure things are "fair" by balancing greed / avarice, pride, envy,
wrath / anger, lust, gluttony, and sloth against generosity, humility, love, kindness, self control, temperance, & zeal.
It's either that or:
- return to ignorance (either through genetic manipulation or some transcendent modification of our fundamental nature)
- continue to accept human nature as it is, for now and all time as far from perfect, inharmonious, and barbarous
- Or, as suggested above,
have an outside actor, like a god, that we cannot touch, influence, or affect, that keeps the scales always balanced without fundamentally altering
our nature; therefore leaving us with our ability to appreciate right from wrong and good from bad.
Thus the concept of a god is functionally useful and I'd go so far as to say necessary
because we as humans have proven time and again that
any attempts to bring equality / balance has been met by a more aggressive culture exerting its primacy over the more peaceful / passive society.
For example, remember Columbus's quote?
"They lack all manner of commerce, neither buying nor selling, and rely exclusively on their natural environment for maintenance. They are
extremely generous with their possessions and by the same token covet the possessions of their friends and expect the same degree of liberality... "
(Columbus and Beyond, pg 24)
They "are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it." ...
(People's History of the United States, pg 3)
"They would make fine servants…With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.”
(People's History of the United States, pg 1)
More recently the fight over communism versus capitalism was literally a battle over a "mode of moral reasoning." Thus it was a battle over, yes,
scarcity, which equates to balance of power and a means of resource allocation.
What this tells me is a fair society is never ready for a war-like society. Thus a more passive and even-handed alliance will always lose to a more
aggressive people. Hence while anyone can harbor greed or a desire to exert power over someone else, humanity will fundamentally continue in its
cycles of oppressions over other groups.
Q.E.D. humans need a physical god because "scarcity is the root of all evil" and is unavoidable across time and space.
[edit on 2-8-2009 by Xtraeme]