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My main point I was trying to address was that a church can prosper, but in many cases it doesn't have a lick to do with its congregations vigor belief in God, traditions, values or well placed intentions. It can be a business, and a profitable one at that.
No where in the teachings of Jesus Christ does it say to build multi million dollar buildings to worship God, or spend thousands on a billboard for that matter.
For example of a commonly misinterpreted story:
Again is it important that people have a fully developed understanding of such facts? I dont think so.
Again we see the anti-Catholic rhetoric but I see you have expanded it to include all forms of evangelical churchs as well. This is the point I was making with my first post. It is not that you have an opinion but you are judging others with that opinion.
You judged them and said that the money could be better spent somewhere else when it was none of your business in the first place.
I have seen churches prosper in the way you mention, but it is usually short-lived.
I really believe time is different to us in this physical realm than it is to God in the spiritual realm.
I had been working on my truck (an old Chevy LUV)
I broke a valve guide
That was a Christian attitude toward life. Several people drove right by us; some didn't even slow down. Only he stopped.
One of the misunderstandings I have come across quite often is where God is attributed with evil works in the OT.
Perhaps it is the scientist in me that yearns to understand this wondrous creation I find myself in,
I have often said that come Judgment Day when I stand before that throne, I feel sorry for God. I doubt I will be able to stop asking questions.
I suppose this comes down to perspective.
While I do not believe in an anthropomorphised God, I tend to agree. If there is some magnificent, omnipotent being that wishes to be worshipped as a "God" then I would imagine the same thing. By the way, I am agnostic and definitely not athiest if you could not tell...
Im a chevy man myself.
But have you ever wondered how many of those cara that drove by you were Christian as well?
I have to say, this is the most confusing part about the bible to me as well. If you take some of the teachings of Christ and compare them to some of the historical Jewish tales of conquest it is hard to imagine they are talking about the same God. For example: at one point Jews admit to the slaughtering of innocent women and children by "the hand of God" so their ancestors are not able to seek revenge years later after growing into adulthood.
But perhaps I didnt make myself clear enough.
When you do, give Him a big ole' wuuuzzzzup from O_E
I do not believe in the "old man in the sky" myself,
I found the Old Testament much easier to understand once I realized that it did not try to make the Hebrews out to be great; it simply described actions and ascribed reason to them. Even the great leaders, such as Moses, David, and Solomon were criticized and applauded for different aspects of their lives. The only person who is shown always in a good light is Jesus Himself.
Faith does not require vast knowledge; that is why it's called 'faith'.
Both groups I specified call themselves Christian. But only the latter are actually practicing the religion.
I simply do not understand how they can call themselves a Christian without understanding the principles behind the religion.
What I have found through listening to different scholars and theologians who like to speak up about the deities in the Bible are that none of them can conclude or agree they know who or what God is.
I am not of the belief humans descended from monkeys. Spirituality and consciousness did not just happen in my book. It seems clear to me that something guided our formation that enabled our free will...what ever that is I would consider "God." But to worship it is an omnipotent deity is a whole other story for me.
What I do speak up against usually is divine intervention.
Here is an example that some believe is divine intervention directly by the hands of God.
Im so sorry you had to go through that.
God can have no physical image per se. This means that the likeness must be spiritual, and there are two areas where this makes sense.
I would like to add here, thanks for the outlet, and you have been the first person I would ever consider a friend I have met online. Never been real big on the myspace/ facebook things...
Where you may have come to the conlusion that God may have no physical image and the likeness may be 'spiritual' many people take this as a literal belief and that the likeness is in fact actually physical.
Congratulations on that, and the same for that baby girl.
It is true that He is often depicted in paintings as such, but I really don't see how anyone can actually believe in a physical God.
But look deeper and you will realize that none of them truly belief God's nose itches, or His feet swell, or anything like that.
And it is that spiritual aspect that forms the basis for belief in a superior being, be that being a spiteful God, a loving Jesus, a jealous Allah, Buddha, Gaia, or any number of other beings (real and false) worshiped world over.
I will end this post on one additional note: No matter what, there must be a final truth to the universe and everything in it.
I am adding you as a friend on ATS.
Peoples indoctrination at a young age.
God is so all powerful "He can do anything with just the blink of His eye."
But, I think it is more commonly accepeted than not that Gods natural form is of the human body.
By the way, did you ever get a chance to read that world mysteries article?
Its good! Im telling you!. I am still waiting on someone to debunk his claims...
This is a fine example as to why the belief in Jesus Christ the way the New Testament would like you to believe is irrelevant. No offence .
Maybe one day we will all be exposed to a pure truth. I can only be envious of those who have already made those conclusions of what the truth is.
The only truth I can say I do in in fact know 100% for sure is that I know nothing for 100%...
I get the feeling many dont share my views when it comes to the more poignant topics of religion and politics. I am neither religious, nor athiest. Nor republican nor democrat. So I argue against them all.