Is Islam the Synagogue of Satan?, page 1
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Topic started on 1-8-2009 @ 02:46 PM by checkers
Many people believe that the Bible discusses Islam here:


Revelation 3
7 “Write this letter to the angel of the church in Philadelphia.
This is the message from the one who is holy and true,
the one who has the key of David.
What he opens, no one can close;
and what he closes, no one can open:
8 “I know all the things you do, and I have opened a door for you that no one can close. You have little strength, yet you obeyed my word and did not deny me. 9 Look, I will force those who belong to Satan’s synagogue—those liars who say they are Jews but are not—to come and bow down at your feet. They will acknowledge that you are the ones I love.
10 “Because you have obeyed my command to persevere, I will protect you from the great time of testing that will come upon the whole world to test those who belong to this world.


Some evidence seems to support their claim that the Bible discusses Islam as Satan's synagogue. For example:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also, the Bible explains how to test whether or not Islam is from God:


1 John 4
1 Dear friends, do not believe everyone who claims to speak by the Spirit. You must test them to see if the spirit they have comes from God. For there are many false prophets in the world. 2 This is how we know if they have the Spirit of God: If a person claiming to be a prophet acknowledges that Jesus Christ came in a real body, that person has the Spirit of God. 3 But if someone claims to be a prophet and does not acknowledge the truth about Jesus, that person is not from God. Such a person has the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard is coming into the world and indeed is already here.


Allah, Muhammad, and Islam did/do not confess Jesus as Christ. Some interpret this as meaning that the spirit of Islam is Antichrist since it directs Muslims to deny Jesus as Christ. The spirit of the Antichrist that directs people to deny Jesus as Christ could therefore be interpreted as "Satan's synagogue".

However, the Bible proclaims Jesus as Lord. So if Muhammad denied that Jesus is Lord then does that mean that he was an Antichrist? What is the Bible referring to as "Satan’s synagogue—those liars who say they are Jews but are not"?

The Bible refutes Islam by proclaiming that Jesus is Lord here:

Colossians 1
15 Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.
He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,
16 for through him God created everything
in the heavenly realms and on earth.
He made the things we can see
and the things we can’t see—
such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world.
Everything was created through him and for him.
17 He existed before anything else,
and he holds all creation together.
18 Christ is also the head of the church,
which is his body.
He is the beginning,
supreme over all who rise from the dead.
So he is first in everything.
19 For God in all his fullness
was pleased to live in Christ,
20 and through him God reconciled
everything to himself.
He made peace with everything in heaven and on earth
by means of Christ’s blood on the cross.


[edit on 1-8-2009 by checkers]


reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 04:42 PM by checkers
Do you mean ... 'bible thumpers'?

They are called that because they metaphorically thump, thump, thump ya' upside the head with the bible via bible quotes ... non stop.


You're right. The Bible has answers for everything. That is why it is called the "Book of Life". For example:

Originally posted by Mumbotron
reply to post by checkers


You're unbelievable. I think some people post stuff like this to watch the crap-storm that ensues. Way to promote bigotry you fool.


Matthew 5
22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, 'You fool!' will be liable to the hell of fire.


So anyways, what is the Bible referring to as "Satan’s synagogue—those liars who say they are Jews but are not"?

Apparently, the following Islamic inscriptions can be found on the Temple Mount. These inscriptions are seemingly AntiChrist since they deny that Jesus is Lord.

South-East Wall. Verily Allah and His angels pronounce blessing upon the Prophet. O ye who have pronounced blessings upon Him and give Him the salutation of peace. O, People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and Christians, always referred to as such by the Muslims -Ed.) do not go beyond the bounds in your religion and do not say about Allah anything but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, is but a messenger of Allah and His word which he cast upon Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe only in Allah and of his messenger, but do not say "Three" (Trinity) and it will be better for you. Allah is only one God. Far be it from His glory that he should have a son.

North Wall. The Messiah will not deign to be in the service of Allah nor will the angels who stand in his presence. O Allah; pray upon Thy messenger "the servant Jesus - (N-W Wall) the son of Mary and peace be upon him the day of his birth, the day of his death and the day of his being raised alive." That is Jesus, son of Mary - a statement concerning which YOU are in doubt. It is not for Allah to take for Himself any offspring, glory be to Him.

Outer Face: West and North-West Walls. In the name of Allah the Merciful and Compassionate. There is no God but Allah alone. Praise be to Allah who hath not taken to himself offspring. To Him there has never been any person in the sovereignty. Mohammed is the messenger of Allah, may God pray upon Him and accept his intercession.

Source

But Islam does not deny that Jesus was Christ. In fact, throughout the Quran he is referred to as "Al-Massih", the prophesied Messiah.


So Muslims believe that Jesus is Lord? Then why don't Muslims worship Jesus as Lord?

John 14
6 Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.


Don't Muslims believe that Christians are blasphemous because they believe that Jesus is Lord? Christians then believe that Muslims are AntiChrist since they don't believe that Jesus is the Lord. Both Christians and Muslims tend to attack each other because they are each concerned about rejecting God. So why then do some Muslims accept Jesus as the Messiah while others reject the divinity of Jesus? Why does Islam cause its followers to be confused about who or what Jesus is? Does the spirit of Islam cause confusion amongst its followers? What kind of spirit benefits from confusion?

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reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 05:00 PM by badmedia
I'm pretty sure synagogue just means a place of worship in general, and isn't only referring to things called such a thing. Gotta be able to see past the labels.

The synagogue of Satan is ALL of the religions. They teach acceptance over understanding. However, within each religion, you will also find those who take understanding over acceptance. But it is that which creates authority on earth, which is to be accepted as truth without question that is a sign of the "wicked".

People are taught to accept, rather than understand. And then because the people do that, then they are able to be led down the broad path of destruction. Because they do not understand, they accept the worldly authority over god.


Samuel 10

18And said unto the children of Israel, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I brought up Israel out of Egypt, and delivered you out of the hand of the Egyptians, and out of the hand of all kingdoms, and of them that oppressed you:

19And ye have this day rejected your God, who himself saved you out of all your adversities and your tribulations; and ye have said unto him, Nay, but set a king over us. Now therefore present yourselves before the LORD by your tribes, and by your thousands.



Psalm 82

1God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

2How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

3Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

4Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

5They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

8Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.



reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 05:06 PM by masonwatcher
reply to post by badmedia


badmedia I will have to agree with you. Righteous Jews, Christians and Muslims are people of the book.


reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 05:49 PM by badmedia
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by badmedia
It is referring to wolves in sheeps clothing,

I kinda figured it was the luke warm .. the fallen away ... those who are 'jewish' (or religious) in name only.... that kind of thing. To point to Islam and say that it fulfills that quote ... well, I just don't see it.


I dislike that term "luke warm". It's just people who are poor in spirit at best, and all those who are poor in spirit are blessed, because they simply don't know any better.

The "wicked" at the ones who are "evil". And those are the ones who blasphemy the holy spirit, because they know the truth, but then they lie and manipulate people for their own advantage. Thus why that verse refers to them as liars. What you would call lukewarm, it's just those who are deceived. The deceivers are the guilty party.

The poor in spirit are blessed because they have not yet known the truth. And when the truth does come to them, then they will accept/understand it, and they will no longer accept the wicked. The wicked of course it's not going to matter, because they already know.

There are verses that talk about when the truth comes to those who are poor in spirit, but I can't think of them off the top of my head. While ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse among the authorities on earth, it is a valid excuse for the father. Of course, it must actually be actual ignorance, can't pretend it like you could towards authorities on earth.

Remember, there are 3 basic groups there. 2 of which have that understanding - the righteous and the wicked, and those in the middle which you call lukewarm are simply the poor in spirit. Defend that 3rd group as Psalm 82 says.



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reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 06:02 PM by badmedia
Originally posted by masonwatcher
reply to post by badmedia


badmedia I will have to agree with you. Righteous Jews, Christians and Muslims are people of the book.


I'm not sure if you are a mason, but that is one area where I am in agreement with the masons. They seem to get that real truth is understanding, and understanding is universal to all who seek it. The expressions of that understanding may change from culture to culture, but the true understanding seems to stay the same.

Of course, within all religions we can point out those who are wicked, but I think it's a bit of a falsehood to paint them all as such.


reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 06:33 PM by open_eyeballs
reply to post by checkers


Such a person has the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard is coming into the world and indeed is already here.


So 2000 years later, still waiting. Waiting. Waiting. Waiting.

What does that say about the rest of your OP?
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