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9 11 The Whole World Knows Even The French Get It ( 1) (9/11 TRUTH SERIES)

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posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 01:45 AM
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reply to post by Taxi-Driver
 


I wsn't implying in any way that you were a homosexual. I was simply illustrating how all of you OS'ers believe anything the MSM or government tell you without any hesitation.

BTW, you really think we are fading. How do you explain the fact of 70,000 signatures for the NYC CAN to open a new investigation, and their denial by a clerk? Thats a pretty sad move on TPTB's part.




posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by prepare4it777
reply to post by john124
 


Thats why it is considered a poll. Your reasoning behind your explanation was whack at best. People are not stupid and they knew exactly what the poll meant.

And btw, the actual question CNN asked was "Do you agree there is a government cover-up of 9/11?" Nowhere was it asked if anybody thought it was "possible" as you put it.



[edit on 1-8-2009 by prepare4it777]


Oh well... so the question was even more unambigious than I specified. Cover-up??? What specifically?? It asks if there was a cover-up... but WHAT!!!!

The question doesn't say "do you agree that Bush & Cheney got the military to fire missiles at the WTC & pentagon, and used holographic imagery to fool everyone, and also planted explosives at the wtc's?", (or just one of those above in the question would even suffice).

The question is purposely aimed so vaguely that so many would just say "yeah we think something was wrong mannnnn!!!! Our government is always lying to us maaannnnnnn!!!!!".

And I disagree with your assertion that people are not stupid. The average person is generally unwilling to analyse a poll or even think too much when asked a question, as they're too busy thinking about something else that is more important to them. Look at how you failed to see that you read into that question what you wanted to see.... and how many others will do the same!

My reasoning was that something along the lines of what I suggested was true, and I was correct. The specifics about the question are irrelevant, as my general point still stands accurate.

And last of all a poll does not constitute proof, so after all of this you are arguing for something irrelevant, when you should just try and prove your claims first of all, whatever they may be!

Oh and one more thing..... the spread of data obtained by the poll matters a great deal. Like where did they take the poll, what kind of people were asked, a good age-range, gender split, a decent number of people questionned. All those sorts of things.


[edit on 2-8-2009 by john124]



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by prepare4it777

BTW, you really think we are fading. How do you explain the fact of 70,000 signatures for the NYC CAN to open a new investigation, and their denial by a clerk? Thats a pretty sad move on TPTB's part.


You do not have the facts.. That petition was an epic fail. There were never 70,000 signatures. The petition was sloppy, sophmorically constructed, and flawed in so many ways it makes one wonder if any lawyer was ever retained at all.

Look into it.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 02:00 AM
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reply to post by Taxi-Driver
 


72,748 signatures. Get your facts straight



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 02:02 AM
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Your posts make no sense, so I won't reply to them anymore. At least Taxi Driver makes plausible arguments. You apparently do not understand what a random poll is.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 02:03 AM
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Lets just do this...

Explain to me how building #7 collapsed

Where is the wreckage from flight 93?

How did both towers collapse at freefall speed?

Why were there puddles of melted steel at the base of the tower?

Why can thermite be found in the dust that covered so much of NYC?





[edit on 2-8-2009 by patientobserver]



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 02:38 AM
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Ok

What?


also, I really wanna post my opinions here on what happened on 9/11. But sadly, if I did, I'd get flamed, bashed and called harsh names. Because if someone doesn't agree with someone else, they get torn apart.

That's the way of ATS. sigh, at least we live in a country where debate is possible.


[edit on 2-8-2009 by GorehoundLarry]



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:42 AM
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1 in 5 americans have a passport, that is just sad a truely telling statistic of life in america



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 03:52 AM
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If the government were to turn around and say 9/11 was perpetrated by the PNAC and the Bush administration, the Truthers would doubt that and look for more. They're not about 'truth' they're just about disagreeing with whatever 'The Man' ever says. If there's an authority, the Truthers are against it- doesn't matter what about or why.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:05 AM
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Your childish ridicule of those who are capable and willing to acknowledge reality only demeans you and no-one else. Indeed you have demonstrated "where delusional narccisim and poor research collide."



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:09 AM
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Don't feed the trolls. As you can see, they just bite back and take up more band width than their repetitive unsupported and insupportable diatribe deserves.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 04:12 AM
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Originally posted by awakeningaussie
1 in 5 americans have a passport, that is just sad a truely telling statistic of life in america


Depends on how you look at it, really. Obviously, China and India have more people, but less passports. Is there as large a swath of land and as large a population of people in the world as there is in the US, other than those two places, which have a lesser amount of people who have passports? I mean, how impressive is someone in France with a passport if they're only going to Poland with it? That's equivalent of going from Chicago to New York- both population-wise and distance-wise. Somehow that's better because you need a passport to do one but not the other?



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 05:57 AM
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reply to post by patientobserver
 


Conspiracy theories are enjoyable enough, but also it's fair to assume that they can also be debunked:

www.debunking911.com...



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:29 AM
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posted by prepare4it777
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72,748 signatures. Get your facts straight


Yes, just the truth. We are sick and tired of the outright lying from your side.

NYCCAN

The petition count is posted in the upper corner. You posted on the NYC CAN Plaintiffs Take City to Court thread, so don't bother to pretend you did not see the link to the current signature count.

We are dealing with potential treason committed against the sovereign people of the United States and the potential deliberate murder of thousands of its own citizens by our own government. This is a serious matter and liars and traitors are not needed. So if you are unwilling to debate in an honest manner, then go away and play your games on some other forum.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by hangerhead
reply to post by patientobserver
 


Conspiracy theories are enjoyable enough, but also it's fair to assume that they can also be debunked:

www.debunking911.com...



So if a debunking page exists on the Internet, then the discussion is over?


Some people actually seem to think that way. What makes you think the debunker info is more correct than the truthers side? Does it have higher credibility to you?

If thats the case, I suggest you start looking at facts instead of credibility. Because credibility is the first casualty where there is a smoking gun.


[edit on 2-8-2009 by Copernicus]



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:48 AM
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posted by hangerhead
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Conspiracy theories are enjoyable enough, but also it's fair to assume that they can also be debunked:

www.debunking911.com...


posted by Copernicus

So if a debunking page exists on the Internet, then the discussion is over?


Some people actually seem to think that way. What makes you think the debunker info is more correct than the truthers side? Does it have higher credibility to you?

If thats the case, I suggest you start looking at facts instead of credibility. Because credibility is the first casualty where there is a smoking gun.



Quite a large team of CIA/NSA duhbunkers could be assembled on a US Government debunker/disinformation website with unlimited funds, couldn't it?

Even so, though they twist and distort and ignore and pretend and deny deny deny; the 9-11 OFFICIAL STORY is still filled with hundreds of glaring holes which the duhbunker teams cannot cover over.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by Faiol
HAHAHAHAHHAHAH THIS VIDEO IS AMAZING HAHAHAAHA

very funny ... man ... this shows how dumb americans really are ... and please, dont give me a warning, because, americans are dumb ... no one can say otherwise after 911


have you met every american? this is a very ignorant comment



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by patientobserver
reply to post by john124
 


Lets just do this...

Explain to me how building #7 collapsed

Where is the wreckage from flight 93?

How did both towers collapse at freefall speed?

Why were there puddles of melted steel at the base of the tower?

Why can thermite be found in the dust that covered so much of NYC?


[edit on 2-8-2009 by patientobserver]


I am patiently waiting for anyone to answer these...

Lets stick to the questions this time for once - no distractions, no accusations. The facts above are undisputed - now lets explain them. From my research, only explanation is inside job and gross manipulation of media.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:04 AM
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The 911 debate continues......

What I want to know is the following;

1. How many people are involved in the coverup? 5? 10? 20? 100?1000? 10,000? 100,000?

Part A. Who do I take my orders from?
B. Why would I take orders to perform such acts?
C. What is my benefit?
D. Can I hate my fellow citizens this much?

2. What would it take for ME to be involved in a coverup of this magnitude?

Part A. Did some one kill my whole family to make me do this?
B. Did some girl not sleep with me to make me do this?
C. Did my teachers hate me this much to want revenge?
D. Is my name Michael Myers? Charles Manson?
E. What is my motive for being involved in this?

3. How long could I keep my mouth shut for?

A Week? A month? A year? After all, its been eight(8) years and not one single person who was involved has come forward.
Who could exert this kind of a hold on me?


5. How much money would it take to keep my mouth shut forever?

If money was my motive, How much??? It's said everyone has a price. What's my price? 1 million? 2 million? 5 million? 10 million? 50 million? 100 million?

Let's take this a step further; Say 50million is my price. Where are they going to get it? How am I going to explain I got it? What am I going to do with it? We all know the "curse of the lottery" Would this windfall have the same effect?

6. What is my motive? Why? Why? Why?

I have seen every argument on ATS about theories, evidence, engineers, experts from everywhere but, no one can answer the WHY.

What I would like to see from the 911 trueth people is an explanation of the WHY?

Forget all the "theories" or "possible evidence of this or that".

Answer for me the WHY...



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by hmmmbeer

Originally posted by patientobserver
reply to post by john124
 


Lets just do this...

Explain to me how building #7 collapsed

Where is the wreckage from flight 93?

How did both towers collapse at freefall speed?

Why were there puddles of melted steel at the base of the tower?

Why can thermite be found in the dust that covered so much of NYC?


[edit on 2-8-2009 by patientobserver]


I am patiently waiting for anyone to answer these...

Lets stick to the questions this time for once - no distractions, no accusations. The facts above are undisputed - now lets explain them. From my research, only explanation is inside job and gross manipulation of media.


You'll probably be waiting for awhile man. And even if someone does reply they won't answer with intellectual honesty. They'll simply say none of that is true... deny dent deny, etc.
Sometimes I wonder if there are actually people paid to come on sites like this to debunk and ridicule the vocal thorns in the side of the government.



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