There are no internment camps,Right ?

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Thought you might want to check out this thread..., timely and relevant:




www.abovetopsecret.com...

"Joint Military-Civilian Prison Complex/Legal System Under Consideration"

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UPDATE
Military-civilian terror prison eyed
The Obama administration is looking at creating a courtroom-within-a-prison complex in the U.S. to house suspected terrorists, combining military and civilian detention facilities at a single maximum-security prison.

The facility would operate as a hybrid prison system jointly operated by the Justice Department, the military and the Department of Homeland Security.

news.yahoo.com...

Many only see two key words in this story,(Guantanamo detainees) there other key words to examine like civilian, hybrid and jointly operated.

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Just to clarify about "containment camps"... since Katrina FEMA has put into effect a plan to house mass quantities of people in the event of a diaster. This also works for martial law, which could easily happen in the event of a dozen simultaneous terrorism attacks. Stadiums, schools are all on the list of shelters and containment camps. Also you will notice new open space parks where tents can be set up and a chain link fence can be easily installed.

Originally posted by WestPoint23
It does not escape me that this will alarm some. However, it is precisely such individuals who are the primary cause of this situation. Indeed the political instability created by the activism over this issue cannot go without mention.

Ah yes... you know... this has a very familiar and ugly ring to it...

One word comes to mind...

McCarthyism

McCarthyism is the politically motivated practice of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence. The term specifically describes activities associated with the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting roughly from the late 1940s to the late 1950s and characterized by heightened fears of communist influence on American institutions and espionage by Soviet agents. Originally coined to criticize the anti-communist pursuits of U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy, "McCarthyism" soon took on a broader meaning, describing the excesses of similar efforts. The term is also now used more generally to describe reckless, unsubstantiated accusations, as well as demagogic attacks on the character or patriotism of political adversaries.

During the post–World War II era of McCarthyism, many thousands of Americans were accused of being Communists or communist sympathizers and became the subject of aggressive investigations and questioning before government or private-industry panels, committees and agencies. The primary targets of such suspicions were government employees, those in the entertainment industry, educators and union activists. Suspicions were often given credence despite inconclusive or questionable evidence, and the level of threat posed by a person's real or supposed leftist associations or beliefs was often greatly exaggerated. Many people suffered loss of employment, destruction of their careers, and even imprisonment. Most of these punishments came about through trial verdicts later overturned,[1] laws that would be declared unconstitutional,[2] dismissals for reasons later declared illegal[3] or actionable,[4] or extra-legal procedures that would come into general disrepute.

So once again History repeats itself

Only this time the Russians are our allies and the new terror under ever bed is a terrorist

Our founders are once again stirring in their graves...

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

So... From the definition in Bouvier's Law Dictionary, It would be for the benefit of the mover, not the moved!

Is this a reason why so many homes are foreclosed in some areas? So those foreclosured would be forced to make way for those who can pay, and those who are foreclosured would have to go to work camps to pay off their debts? Will they effectively become prisoners?

Are the government justifying these work camps- which are only being hinted of at this moment in time- by closing on/ kicking people off tent cities, eventually forcing them to move to closed-in, predesignated areas where they will fall under the control of military influence and then told how to live, and what to give up- their sons... their daughters...

People would have to go there willingly- the days of trusting Japanese and Jews and certain targeted German citizens respectfully getting on trains to prison camps are long over, and about as dead as a... hmmm.

Will there be a false flag, perhaps an uncontrollable disease at a tent city, crime caused in or by a tent city, that will allow the government to justify greater control over its inhabitants?

Worse still, I wonder how many people will rebel at this, especially after the PTB uses MSM to paint tent city dwellers, just as they did to the Japanese and the German Jews, and today, Muslims, in a negative light to divide and conquer the populace.

They have had a lot of practice... They just might conquer the world after all

Microwave beams... Laser quided missles... Subservient soldiers..

They just might.

Originally posted by star in a jar
Microwave beams... Laser quided missles... Subservient soldiers..

And don't forget DARPA's latest project BORGS

Brain Machine Interface: BMI (Cyborg Soldiers)
www.staticbrain.com...

Be afraid... be very afraid

Originally posted by fleabit
This position has been around for years. What do you expect them to use to watch over military prisoners? Clerks?

Amazing, absolutely amazing. Disinfo agents everywhere. Did you NOT read the "Civilian Related" on the "NG", bottom of the page?

Work with federal, state and local law enforcement? How is that overseas detention or military prisoners? What is a military prisoner in your eyes?

Do you not KNOW that YOU are deemed an "enemy of the state" and a terrorist? Just look at the Congressional Record.

www.barefootsworld.net...

"The ultimate ownership of all property is in the state; individual so-called `ownership' is only by virtue of government, i.e., law, amounting to a mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State." - Senate Document No. 43, "Contracts payable in Gold" written in 1933.

The declared National Emergency of March 9, 1933 amended the War Powers Act to include the American People as enemies:

"In Title 1, Section 1 it says: The actions, regulations, rules, licenses, orders and proclamations heretofore or hereafter taken, promulgated, made, or issued by the President of the United States or the Secretary of the Treasury since March 4, 1933, pursuant to the authority conferred by subdivision (b) of section 5 of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended, are hereby approved and confirmed."


"Section 2. Subdivision (b) of section 5 of the Act of October 6, 1917, (40 Stat. L. 411), as amended, is hereby amended to read as follows: emergency declared by the President, the President may, through any agency that he may designate, or otherwise, investigate, regulate, or prohibit, under such rules and regulations as he may prescribe, by means of licenses or otherwise, any transactions in foreign exchange, transfers of credit between or payments by banking institutions as defined by the President, and export, hoarding, melting, or earmarking of gold or silver coin or bullion or currency, BY ANY PERSON WITHIN THE UNITED STATES OR ANY PLACE SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF."

I wish that more people would understand their situation and NOT spread propaganda and lies. Use common sense. WHY do you NEED a LICENSE to marry, to use your property, to gather food like fish and game? Is not a "license" a document to show that you can conduct business? And with whom are you conducting this business? The state and federal government I would assume wouldn't you?

We are all slaves and have been. Visit Barefootsworld.net and READ!!!!
These documents and literature are posted by very well educated people.

Originally posted by Exuberant1

Originally posted by OnTheFelt


Oh and I love this one, "Assist them in returning to a productive life."

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Slave Labour.

That is exactly what this means. The captives will be forced to work during their internment; nothing is free.



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I was actually thinking more along the lines of brain washing...

"Oh. You don't want to agree with us? How about you stay here enjoy prison life while we educate you on what we want you to learn and know until you decide to agree with us..."

Yeah, that line in the video irked me a lot too...

-Sliadon

Originally posted by OLD HIPPIE DUDE
Looking for a job in the New World Order ?

www.nationalguard.com...

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I have been wondering how to become a guard at the fema camps. Thanks for the link!!!


You know, that is rather shocking. The job title doesn't really fit the images in the video at all.................It really makes you wonder...

This will certainly FUEL the paranoia.

Whereas your government has apparently been on a non stop mission of beefing up its capacity in terms of facilities and now also professionals in the area of detention, internment and resettlement,

I would not want to be a protester of anything in your country. I would be very concerned about what I said on the internet, or to my friends. I would be very afraid!

As I am not in your country I can only sit smugly by and watch in the full confidence that my government would never do such things.

Come to think of it, we probably just have fewer people questioning and probing things. God only knows what they are up to here that we do not know about. [/smugness]

Originally posted by Oolon

Originally posted by OLD HIPPIE DUDE
Looking for a job in the New World Order ?

www.nationalguard.com...

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I have been wondering how to become a guard at the fema camps. Thanks for the link!!!


You know, that is rather shocking. The job title doesn't really fit the images in the video at all.................It really makes you wonder...

This will certainly FUEL the paranoia.

It's not paranoia anymore. It's getting more real every day.

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Hmmm...giving people pillows, locking em up, working on computers, mowing the yard, shooting guns....seems like the average day for the average dude right?

Its an mos for prison guards contrary to what people believe this is not handled by military police.They are taught how to run a prison people with this same MOS guard and maintain United States Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth, the maximum-security penal facility of the United States Military.

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WTF?
If we dont stand up for something, we dont deserve to be free. IMO
Then we would be looking at it from another countries point of view
like you are. Freedom does not come easily or cheap, ever.

IF we dont ever stand up, we are as good as - you know- toast anyway.
One doesnt need to be paranoid, just watchfull....
Only takes the clue of the bipartisen bailouts to let you know its not
about us.....

Of course remember this is all just web entertainment!
As they say, nothing is true on the net!

mazing, absolutely amazing. Disinfo agents everywhere. Did you NOT read the "Civilian Related" on the "NG", bottom of the page?

Work with federal, state and local law enforcement? How is that overseas detention or military prisoners? What is a military prisoner in your eyes?

Not everyone who disagrees with your point of view is a disinfo agent. What a cheap way to try to reduce someone's stance in everyone's eyes. Stop trying to attack someone to try to discredit their opinions. Is your argument that weak, that you feel the need to do that? It gets tiresome.

As far as the civilian related, that's the blurb that ALL MOS's have that tell soliders-to-be what job related functions they might fill once they leave the military. That's not what they are doing while serving in the military (although some of that may indeed happen, as laws soldiers or POWs break may also be held responsible by State and Federal laws as well).

You DO realize that soldiers break laws, and end up going to places like Leavenworth, right? Here, you can read all about it:

usmilitary.about.com...

I remember a Colonel while I was in Korea, who was involved in the black market, sending rice back to the States. He ended up in Leavenworth. Gotta suck after serving 20 + years.

The military DOES have prisoners, they DO need people to maintain the prison, and there are always POWs to be dealt with as well. There was a rash of POWs in the Iraq war, and I imagine the #'s will climb again with our new initiatives.

There are still plenty of prisons in Iraq, and there is plenty of work for a 31E, who IS in all regards, also a 31B, which is your standard issue military police. So if work is slow, you still have plenty to do. But anyways, this isn't a "new" position that just opened up, as some are claiming.

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No, there are no internment camps. Every year, someone says something is going to happen and nothing ever does. You'd think you people would've learned by now.

Responsibilities
. . .
As an advanced level Internment / Resettlement Specialist, you may be:
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providing
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custody/control for the operation of a displaced civilian (DC) resettlement facility.

www.nationalguard.com...


Jews leaving Germany voluntarily in the late 30s were accused of being alarmist too. Many "sensible" ones believed this would all soon blow over and trusted their countrymen to act decently.

There's not even anything to blow over. And we've been through this for like 20 years already. We know there's nothing to it.

reply to post by SuperViking

No, there are no internment camps.

Cool thanks!

Every year, someone says something is going to happen and nothing ever does.

No prob. But, what if it ever did? Would YOU be ready and know whats up?

You'd think you people would've learned by now.

Learned what? Do not trust anyone, especially the gubmint?
Good call! Same ones who are giving away our country, right?
Same ones who already have held americans in camps like
I posted before, right?
Um, okay. Are you sure you're on the right thread?
Go camp with 'your people' then. We enjoy learning here.
Even about stuff thats too dang scary for most to even think about.

Whats the harm in learning anyway? Or is that illegal now too?
When is clicking on a link and commenting, paranoid?
As others have said, you choose what to believe in.
No one is holding a gun to your head making you believe anything.
You have no right to presume 'we people' are either!

You made your case, as we all have.
As long as the're not body cases for us! Who really knows?
Even the military guys can't agree!
Are you the head of fema or what?
We will know when we find out. Or when they want us to.
Peace to you whatever happens. Or doesn't.



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You're 'learning' misinformation. That's a problem.