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There are no internment camps,Right ?

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reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 09:39 PM by Maxmars

This is not meant to be anything other than me musing over this...

I have to say it seems unlikely that there are, or even have been, critical shortages of Military Police, Shore Patrol, or Security Police in any branch in recent history.

I have known many SPs, and MPs personally, and can tell you, that if there was ever a caliber of military personnel that fit the 'sincerely patriotic' and 'highly professional' bill, it was them. I find it highly unlikely that any but the youngest and most impressionable recruits could possibly be convinced to perform any action that would be contrary to their constitutional mandate... The military police have always been exemplary, in my experience. Of course, this is a generalization and not necessarily a contradiction of some of the horrors we have noted in the past. Such things have, and still can happen. People make mistakes, believe in the wrong people, or agendas, and sometimes, people can be just ... bad.

But something else occurs to me. This sudden effort to recruit new 'specialists' tells me that we may be meant to now perceive there to be such a shortage - OR - perhaps they had originally intended to use the amazingly robust 'contractor' (i.e. private) security forces now incorporated in the US.

Many of us may remember the alarming increase in construction of private prisons in the recent past. Many may have imagined, or expect the worst. Personally, I fear the potential for abuse. But perhaps their plan was disrupted after the PR debacle that was/is Black Water, Xe, or whatever, they can't easily exploit the need to man these prisons, without tipping their hand and revealing that it had been the plan all along. The Pentagon is, after all, THE prime target for corporate exploitation.

Now they have to justify these prisons, or lose the investment they had tricked the tax-payers into making. By running all these projects through the Pentagon as military contracts, it could be easy to conceal the nature of the exploit. This might be especially true if we are already distracted by national security issues, both real, and contrived (and all the Hollywood/Madison Avenue public manipulation that our showbiz politicians add to it.)

So they pick up a whole new crop of military recruits - for particular application to these prisons.

You know, for a country that has the highest per capita prison population while simultaneously enduring one of the deepest and most far-reaching economic disasters in history; we sure have managed to foster a serious blossoming of of the private prison industry.

From there, it will be a short hop to establishing a larger scale private law 'enforcement' industry, no?

Sorry about the rambling... It's late for me....

reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 09:41 PM by TheLoony

Originally posted by soldier8828
reply to post by TheLoony

i just got done watching the video and wow are you really paranoid? instead of thinking so much about the gov using the military for civ why dont you look at the fact that we are going to be getting rid of gitmo reallllllly soon and need more MPs obviously to conduct these operations....i reallly dont think that you all should be worried at all....lol

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It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you

No reason to worry. Just move along, there is nothing to see here.

reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 09:50 PM by hotrodturbo7

reply to post by badmedia

Yeah, when a 40 year old PVT walked up and said "hey dudes, know where I can get some hashish?", you KNEW he was CID.

but I guess I wasn't clear, 31B is your standard patrol MP, 31D is the CID (detectives), and 31E is this "internment/resettlement specialist".

That may have always been the official name, but I thought that 31E was "corrections specialist".

BTW, field 95 is history, all law enforcement is now field 31.

31E job description

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reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 10:14 PM by Ridhya

"Military Occupational Specialty Internment Resettlement Specialist".

MOSIRS
Is that referenced in the bible or anything? Sounds familiar

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reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 10:20 PM by Adonsa

Originally posted by OLD HIPPIE DUDE
www.nationalguard.com...

Hello Old Hippie Dude,

Read the URL you typed. "dot com," what does that tell you? The website is either unofficial or both a hoax and unofficial.

The correct website for the Army National Guard is
www.ng.mil...
and for the Army Guard it is:
www.arng.army.mil...

Notice they end in "dot mil." Military websites usually end in "dot mil," some with .gov and for some individual states it may end with .us. The "dot com" suffix is supposed to be for civilian commercial AND "for profit" companies. Read the bottom of your website

What does that tell you? There is no United States Army National Guard. The ARNG structure is inherent within each state. There is, United States Army, and there is United States Army Reserve, but the National Guard structure belongs to the states.

The National Guard Bureau is a resource, and does not command any state's ARNG units.

Please recognize unofficial and bogus websites for what they are.

reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 10:43 PM by zorgon

Originally posted by dodadoom
Not much surprises me anymore, but this on a national guard website?
I thought they are here to guard the country, not police it!

Have you forgotten Kent State?

reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 10:55 PM by zorgon

reply to post by Adonsa

Hmmm I see you point. I just wrote the PR Dept for an answer

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reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 10:56 PM by Skelkie3

Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by OLD HIPPIE DUDE

They are prison guards for military convicts...

What else is everyone so worried about?

Are you saying that Nat'l Gaurd troops are manning Gitmo and Leavenworth ?
This was an ad for the Nat'l Gaurd, not regular Army...

That's a bit strange.

reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 11:08 PM by Skelkie3

Originally posted by Adonsa

Originally posted by OLD HIPPIE DUDE
www.nationalguard.com...

I cannot state with the authority you can as to the authenticity of websites, nor with your certainty of military domain assignments...

But- it looks like many thousands of real gaurdsmen consider this a legitimate website, judging by the forum section. I only looked at a couple dozen posts.

I think you should inform them if you really think it is fake. That's because only someone with huge resources could pull it off, and they are obviously data mining and/or recruiting spies...

So, if I follow the links and join up, do you think I will be joining the Russian, Chinese, or perhaps the Israeli military ?

reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 11:17 PM by dodadoom

reply to post by open_eyeballs

Do you know anyone that has been detained in an internment camp?

Um, Zorgon schooled me, now I'm schooling you:
Its already happened before.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066 authorizing the mass incarceration of over 110,000 Japanese Americans during World War II.
Two-thirds were American citizens. Over half were children or infants.

www.asianamericanmedia.org...

Talk about your paranoia! Which paranoia is healthier for us, anyway?
Ours, or the gubmints?
Your call, your life. Never cared for camp myself.

Like I say, just tryin' to survive in the land of the GREED,
home of the 'FRAID(as in-you know-paranoid)
Anyone up for a major contraction?

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reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 11:19 PM by Moshpet

Thhhhbbbbt! Another hyper inflammatory post about nothing news worthy.

The military does not use civilians to police it's jails.

Does 'Leavenworth' in Kansas ring any bells?

Major military bases have small prisons for much the same thing.

Mp's at the most deliver prisoners to the jail, they don't have the training to be corrections officers.

M.

reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 11:20 PM by Narciso

reply to post by Adonsa

Hi Adonsa, the dot mil page of the National Guard you posted has a link to NATIONALGUARD.COM under the title Army National Guard Recruiting. Just check it out, it takes you to the dot com site, don´t know why but it´s there...

reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 11:55 PM by PrisonerOfSociety

They were ready to drop the constitution 20+ years ago, whence an 'emergency' was on the horizon. It seems a fall pandemic would be a viable catalyst for instigation of hidden agendas...

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reply posted on 2-8-2009 @ 12:03 AM by hotrodturbo7

Originally posted by Adonsa

Please recognize unofficial and bogus websites for what they are.

The job is still active on monster.com

ANG job on Monster

Please recognize you may be mistaken.

reply posted on 2-8-2009 @ 12:12 AM by Big Oil

That is very disturbing I can't imagine what you guys are going through down there with Obama being a smooth talking player who is screwing you at ever corner and is about to turn the US armed forces on the civilian population for total control.

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reply posted on 2-8-2009 @ 12:37 AM by human8

Originally posted by lucentenigma

Originally posted by dodadoom
"Camp" makes it sound so nice....

Prisons have been called 'Camps' for quite a long time.

Concentration Camps?

Florida Prisons are referred to as 'Camps'

There is one in Florida called 'Liberty Work Camp'. Hows that for ironic?

What gets me about that page is the term resettlement specialist.

Here is the definition of resettlement from thefreedictionary.com

Noun 1. resettlement - the transportation of people (as a family or colony) to a new settlement (as after an upheaval of some kind)

Source

It seems like all the rumors of FEMA detention camps could be true. If they are training men and women for this role then there must be camps all over the country.

Let's look a bit deeper here at this definition idea.

So here is the definition of settlement in Bouvier's Law Dictionary.

SETTLEMENT, contracts. The conveyance of an estate, for the benefit of some person or persons.

A resettlement would be 're'conveyance of an estate...for the benifit of some person or another.'

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reply posted on 2-8-2009 @ 12:40 AM by skycopilot

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Contents (Listed by paragraph and page number)
Chapter 1
Introduction, page 1
Purpose • 1–1, page 1
References • 1–2, page 1
Explanation of abbreviations and terms • 1–3, page 1
Responsibilities • 1–4, page 1
Civilian inmate labor programs • 1–5, page 2
The process • 1–6, page 2
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Establishing Installation Civilian Inmate Labor Programs, page 4
Policy statement • 2–1, page 4
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reply posted on 2-8-2009 @ 12:58 AM by cloakndagger

What is the food like when you stay at one of these facilities? What kind of recreation do they offer? I like ping pong and billiards.

reply posted on 2-8-2009 @ 01:04 AM by j2000

Originally posted by ArMaP
Sorry for my ignorance, but isn't the National Guard something "official"?

I ask this because I find it a little strange for the National Guard to use a ".com" domain registered to a "IoStudio" instead of a more official looking address.

Or are they independent from the US government and can have their ".com" sites without any problem?

I searched it, followed thru the MOS listings and got the exact same addres. So it for real.

reply posted on 2-8-2009 @ 01:05 AM by space cadet

Sounds all scary and s**t if you are thinking about the government putting all of us in camps and doing god knows what with the land and stuff we used to own! However I think these actions are prompted more by events such as Katrina than any other scenario. All of america screamed we were not ready, not ready to relocate that many people, not ready to feed them, bathe them, relocate them, their kids were spread all over the south, some still haven't been reunited with their families. Katrina prompted serious change in how we will handle the next catastrophe involving so many people. And of course if anyone managed to begin a war on US soil, there would need to be somewhere to put the prisoners, and I am not talking about it's citizens, unless they go all rogue, it would be used for the invading source.