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reply posted on 13-8-2009 @ 09:46 PM by lw2525
I see from the replies that many people regard the belief in satan as an ignorant superstition that surely no modern, learned person would be silly enough to entertain.

Whether you believe in satan or not, I offer, for your consideration, the Rituale Romanum... also known as the Exorcism Rite.
Dating back to the 16th century Catholic Church, it was used even then as a last resort... when the priests had ruled out 'psychological' causes for a suspected 'possession'. It's hard NOT to believe in something supernatural (and evil) when the suspected possessed person is eloquently speaking an ancient language they'd never even heard of before, or babbling gibberish for 20 minutes, which when recorded and played backwards reveals the person spouting off a long series of prayers. The priests believe that the saying of the prayers backwards (in this case, quite literally) is done by the demon\evil spirit to mock Christ.
These phenomena, and much more, have been documented.

Here's the exorcism ritual, word-for-word, and here's hoping none of us ever need it.

Hear therefore and fear, O Satan, enemy of the faith, foe to the human race, producer of death, thief of life, destroyer of justice, root of evils, kindler of vices, seducer of men, betrayer of nations, inciter of envy, origin of avarice, cause of discord, procurer of sorrows. Why dost thou stand and resist, when thou knowest that Christ the Lord will destroy thy strength? Fear Him who was immolated in Isaac, sold in Joseph, slain in the lamb, crucified in man, and then was triumphant over hell. It is hard for thee to wish to resist. It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. Because the more slowly thou go out, the more the punishment against thee increases, since thou despises not men but Him who is Lord of the quick and the dead, who shall come to judge the quick and the dead, and the world by fire.


reply posted on 24-10-2009 @ 08:28 AM by Dark Passenger
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to
post by TinFoilHatMan55



Satan is only a weak mans excuse for his troubles.

Sure there are evil forces in the world, evil spirits, evil entities, evil people. But as far as "Satan" with the fire and the cruelty and what not, that's just a scare tactic.


~Keeper


So theres evil forces, evil spirits, evil entities.... but satans just a scare tactic? your joking right?

So where exactly do these evil spirts come from? Willie Wonkas chocolate factory?

But... Satan is the master of deception so these type of answers arent that surprising.
[edit on 24-10-2009 by Dark Passenger]

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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 06:27 AM by rnaa
reply to post by TinFoilHatMan55



Satan is very real (IMO).

But not the supernatural being who is a rival to God that many people make him out to be.

I understand Satan as a psychological archetype that has been externalized to protect us from going insane with the contradictions in our mind. Basically it allows us to live with ourselves when we do something wrong by allowing us to blame an external entity for our misdeed.

The assertion that Satan is psychological in no way makes it less 'real', nor does it distract from the Bible message in relation to Satan. In fact it makes Satan more 'real', and more dangerous, than some supernatural rival being to God. It actually helps make the Bible make sense.

For those who would claim atheism, no God, therefore no Satan, I would simply say that Satan is just a term given by the religious to the archetype. You may not wish to use the name Satan and that is fine. There are other names for it, but you do possess it and at times use it to protect your sanity.

Satan is just part of being human.

So yes, Virginia, there is a Satan.


reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 01:39 PM by DemonSpeedN
reply to post by pplrnuts



pplrnuts I find I find it amusing (and sad) that people like you question something like the bible. It's the word of GOD it was written by God through human hands long ago and it doesnt matter what language it was originally written in the message is still the same.
Here's something to think about. Believe it or not you actually knew Jesus Christ and God the Father and just about everyone else in heaven before we came to earth, you just dont remember cause God put a "veil" over your eyes so you dont. Now why did do this I'm not sure and why dont you ask him since he's the one that did it. There is a world out there that you obviously know nothing about and you apparently not ready for the truth. I'm thinking you probably wouldnt know the truth if it bit you on the ass.



reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 02:59 PM by IamLael

Sure looks real to me...

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