Town halls gone wild

Originally posted by dooper


And if you think it will, you're as green as a garden catapillar.

Call me algea then. I don't know why I don't just block you my friend. I know your an older gent who has seen combat and deserves respect but I don't think I've ever agreed on one thing you've ever posted on this site. This country was founded by liberal thinking.

Originally posted by finemanm

Can you see Marshal Law on the horizon? If these popularly elected politicians are literally affraid for their safety, why wouldn't they agree to impose Marshal Law.

Our 2nd amendment. Also, if the politician is afraid for their safety because people dont like what they stand for then something should be done about the politician, not the people. Then again knowing the government they dont have the peoples best interest.

Originally posted by finemanm

Important to note, this is happening to the democrats - the "people's party." I seems that the backlash for big government, the coming higher taxes, the various bailouts is starting to come to a boiling point.

Peoples party? Thats interesting. I usually hear the republicans are more for the constitution then the democrats. Wouldnt the people want a president that goes by the constitution? Too bad most politicians are criminals and decide to do such acts which are against the constitution anyways.


Reading the article it seems Bishop is more prone to preventing protest then actually working with the people by holding smaller town meetings. The government should be for the people by the people. I dont think Bishop will change his positions.

Here comes the flack but it seems that people are mimicking the behavior of shock jock right wing radio/tv show hosts. The hosts scream and yell and cut people off and even cut their mics. They never have an intelligent debate with someone on their show who has a different point of view.

People are starting to act just like them.

Originally posted by Maxmars

Originally posted by 5 oClock
reply to post by Roadblockx

 

We need to get rid of the 2 party system.

We don't have a two-party system anymore. We have a one party system that pretends to be two parties, and when a so-called 'third' party comes around - supporters are all ridiculed by the media about 'throwing away their votes.'

Think about it.

Not familiar with adding a video into the post but heres the link.

www.youtube.com...

I know its Alex Jones, a bit hasty but its still the truth about the party system. Its a illusion.

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It's about time the stiffs starting showing a pulse! However, I think it may be to late to reverse the damage that has been done thus far. The degeneration has been going on for about 30 years. Piece by piece liberties have been taken away. The corruption and waste are so ingrained in the Federal apparatus that it would almost be impossible to reverse. I see it as a kid in high school in want of graduation, but didn't do his studies the entire year, and at the last minute, decides to catch up his studies and pass; which is virtually impossible.

This example applies to the people and our government leaders and is the result of being deaf, dumb, and blind as the heist of the century goes on under our noses. However, it is about time people start questioning the taxation, unethical activities of elected leaders, deficit spending, waste, pork projects, etc . . . I have no solutions to the problem, but I know one thing, whatever solution is decided upon; it will be unorthodox and radical compared to what the people are accustomed to. Maybe the American people should have stayed on top of their homework and wouldn't be in this mess to begin with.

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Originally posted by WinoBot

Originally posted by dooper


And if you think it will, you're as green as a garden catapillar.

Call me algea then. I don't know why I don't just block you my friend. I know your an older gent who has seen combat and deserves respect but I don't think I've ever agreed on one thing you've ever posted on this site. This country was founded by liberal thinking.

Yes,liberal indeed. The stance that a person owes nothing to the government,and the government owes nothing to the people,save allegiance.Is a most admirable liberal trait. Thomas Jefferson was probably the first real liberal.He was liberal enough to realize that a Government left unchecked would invade your personal freedoms.
God bless our liberal founding fathers!!!!

“I had felt they would be pointless,” Rep. Tim Bishop (D-N.Y.) told POLITICO, referring to his recent decision to suspend the events in his Long Island district. “There is no point in meeting with my constituents and [to] listen to them and have them listen to you if what is basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation.”

Is it even possible to have an intelligent conversation with a politician?

it states in the article the protesters were critizing him on health care, bailing out the auto industry, and more. I'm sure his office received letters, faxes, emails on this , for him not to vote on them. He must have voted against what his supporters believed in. He made his bed, lie in it.
Maybe these town hall meetings are what we need so our reps in congress or gov't understands were we stand.

reply to post by Kadzait


You miss understand me... When I say that the democrats are the "people's party" its not true, its the propaganda that they put out there. They claim that they are the one who fight for the poor, for the underdogs. Its obviously non-sense. They just represent a different set of corporations from the republicans.

First, let me say I 've given more stars to more posts in this thread than any in a while, with that out of the way, I would encourage all of us, Americans and our other nationalities here on ATS that are still reading here to go about the business of taking back what is ours.
The freedoms we are used to will soon become a thing of the past if we don't keep the pressure up on the elected leaders of our all very fine Nations.
As was evidenced by the videos shared here and all over the net, these politicians have become lost, and as THEIR leaders, We The People, have the God given responsibility to bring them back from the edge of the precipice.
Use your heads, do what you as a person in the world making it through day-to-day should do, you know what the right thing is, make yourself be heard.
If the politician that represents your area is deaf, write, if blind, hold their hand and lead, if dumb, get the jackass out of there.

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reply to post by finemanm


I don't understand why anyone would vote for someone who is already in office. Any incumbent should be voted out just due to common sense. Until we repeatedly replace the whole lot of elected represenatives each and every election then we deserve what we get. Even if you like someone vote them out. The next time vote out who get elected. In six years we should finanlly get some people who actually work for the people.

“There is no point in meeting with my constituents and [to] listen to them and have them listen to you if what is basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation.”

"Why try and talk to people that want to drag you outside and hang you in the street?"

Something tells me that when we live in an era where a Democrat from New York can't talk openly to his Democratic Constituents without fearing bodily harm ... that we are not far from wider spread social unrest.

The story goes to talk about another Democrat who had to call the police to "restore" order after "Tea Party Activist" were shut out of his meeting. Well his little meeting was ruined either way.

The targets in most cases are House Democrats, who over the past few months have tackled controversial legislation including a $787 billion economic stimulus package, a landmark energy proposal and an overhaul of the nation’s health care system.

For the most part, the article is apparently blaming "Tea Party Activist (see right wing extremist)" for the "uncivil" attitudes being expressed to Democrats.

What I think the Democrats (and Republicans) are failing to see... is that it probably has nothing to do with parties.. as much as it has to do with:

Rising Taxes.

Rising Unemployment.

Bailing Out Corrupt Corporations.

Politicians Pulling Sweet Answers From Their Asses To Appease Us.

More Raising Of Taxes!

Further Corruption.

More Raising Taxes!

AND WE ARE STILL AT WAR WITH TWO SEPARATE NATIONS!?!?




Seriously... How can they wonder why the once middle class Americans now poverty riddled hungry, over taxed American is so freaking pissed off. People that have had their livelihoods ripped from them by a corrupt system is far less likely to take into consideration "Civility" when confronting the corrupt bastards that led their country down this path.

reply to post by Rockpuck


God common sense? I laid it all out of page 3 what is going down. This has been building and you summed up a lot of what I also laid out. Interesting times we live in.

reply to post by tjeffersonsghost


Ah, I never made it to page 3.

But we are, as usual, in complete agreement. I think it's time for you and I to enter politics?

There is no point in meeting with my constituents and [to] listen to them and have them listen to you if what is basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation

This is friggin sick. Now they are showing their true colors, their utter contempt for the public. You know he canceled this thing he doesn't like doing in the first place because it got a little unpleasant. That's what happens when you're a corrupt criminal SOB.

I guess the summer of hell is finally starting to boil over. Better late than never.

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Do the words "long, hot summer" ring a bell?
Dig in, friends. Unless another big celebrity goes down to take the sheeples eye off the ball, we are in for it.

You know this is the most heartening news I've heard in a long time. Put the fear of god in those minions.

Here lately, especially in the last week or two, I've seen an incredible awakening to the BS the likes of which I've never seen.

Web bots also expect a big transfer from corpgov media to alternative this summer-fall. I've been watching ATS's site rank climb steadily, and Infowars is getting big too. Ad revenues on corpgov are well off, and you can see that they're scared and smearing us because they recognize the movement is exploding.

It's a good day to be alive.

reply to post by LAUGHING-CAT


We already are in for it. We got some people waking up. But even John Stewart the other day when talking about a guest novelist who wrote a book about the Civil War mentioned. "You know, the first one, not the one that's coming."

People are pissed off, and they aren't taking the bull crap they used to. We voted for change and we didn't mean coins in a cup!

All it's going to take is someone to lead the people back to freedom. The problem is no one has the stones enough to take the risk and demand liberty and accept only death as an alternative.

We the people are tired of being swept aside by idle gossip, bull dunk jargon, rhetoric that makes our dogs puke. We want our country back and all too soon if these politicians don't take their heads out of their asses we are going to take it back by force.

There are none as dangerous as those that would fight and die for freedom.

Originally posted by daddyroo45

Originally posted by WinoBot

Originally posted by dooper


And if you think it will, you're as green as a garden catapillar.

Call me algea then. I don't know why I don't just block you my friend. I know your an older gent who has seen combat and deserves respect but I don't think I've ever agreed on one thing you've ever posted on this site. This country was founded by liberal thinking.

Yes,liberal indeed. The stance that a person owes nothing to the government,and the government owes nothing to the people,save allegiance.Is a most admirable liberal trait. Thomas Jefferson was probably the first real liberal.He was liberal enough to realize that a Government left unchecked would invade your personal freedoms.
God bless our liberal founding fathers!!!!

Liberal is a twisted double-speak version of liberty, where those who are liberal want liberty, but their efforts to give everyone legal freedoms are creating a totalitarian society. Liberty means no one tells me what I can do. Socialism means everyone tells me what I can do. The opposite of free is governed, and liberal groups are for centralizing all governing power in one national power with dreams of taking over the globe.

If I recall correctly, the last effort at a national socialist party led by a strong personality went very, very wrong.

Something tells me that when we live in an era where a Democrat from New York can't talk openly to his Democratic Constituents without fearing bodily harm ... that we are not far from wider spread social unrest.

The video makes very clear that those were right-wing extremists. The right-wing extremists are just doing what Hitlers SA did during the 20's and 30's. They may not wear brown shirts, but they are just thugs seeking to intimidate the left.

For the most part, the article is apparently blaming "Tea Party Activist (see right wing extremist)" for the "uncivil" attitudes being expressed to Democrats.

See the video. It is indeed the tea party right.

What I think the Democrats (and Republicans) are failing to see... is that it probably has nothing to do with parties.. as much as it has to do with:

I didn't see any of those people crashing GWB's townhall meetings. In fact, I would guess that they were propably invited and were cheering him on.

Rising Taxes. Rising Unemployment. Bailing Out Corrupt Corporations. politicians Pulling Sweet Answers From Their Asses To Appease Us. More Raising Of Taxes! Further Corruption. More Raising Taxes!

All of which you can thank GWB for... How quickly you forget, but I guess those right wingers can only get off the couch when the president is black.

AND WE ARE STILL AT WAR WITH TWO SEPARATE NATIONS!?!?

You can't be bothered getting off the couch to protest for 5 years, but suddenly when a black guy get's the job of cleaning up the mess, you spring into action, blaming him for it all.

Seriously... How can they wonder why the once middle class Americans now poverty riddled hungry, over taxed American is so freaking pissed off. People that have had their livelihoods ripped from them by a corrupt system is far less likely to take into consideration "Civility" when confronting the corrupt bastards that led their country down this path.

Those brownshirts are organized right-wing extremists, not your average middle-class american. The browshirts thrive on confrontation and intimidation, not civility.

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