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posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 01:47 PM
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Millions marched in 2003 and nothing happened.
400 marched on a town hall meeting and you think that something positive will come from it.




posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by CuriousSkeptic
Millions marched in 2003 and nothing happened.
400 marched on a town hall meeting and you think that something positive will come from it.



Have faith.

if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move;



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 01:54 PM
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"They took er jerb!" "They took my job!" - south park town hall meeting, sound familiar? great post



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 01:56 PM
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posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Police called on retirees at senator's LA office

Read more: www.sfgate.com.../n/a/2009/07/30/state/n184320D61.DTL#ixzz0Mr9555AJ


Los Angeles police Sergeant Rich Brunson said Thursday that police lured the group of seven outside somehow, then locked the building's doors behind them.

Brunson had said earlier that eight people were being taken into custody, but corrected himself after getting new details from officers on the scene.

A spokeswoman for the 55- to 87-year-old activists said they arrived at Feinstein's office around noon and remained in her conference room more than six hours.

Feinstein spokesman Gil Duran says staff offered the retirees an in-person meeting with the senator during a Los Angeles visit next week but that they demanded to speak with her immediately.



Read more: www.sfgate.com.../n/a/2009/07/30/state/n184320D61.DTL#ixzz0Mr9NzbTS


You know this is a sad day in the history of America, when the elderly, who have worked hard all their lives get this type of treatment.

I guess the older generation were the greatest generation, and still are,

Just call me a senior extremist.

This is not about democrat or republican.


[edit on 113131p://bFriday2009 by Stormdancer777]


How nice of the police to detain law abiding citizens,at the whim of a public servant. Charges of kidnapping should have been brought against Feinstein and the police. So long as the people protest peacefully,the hands of law enforcement should be tied.



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:03 PM
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I love some of the Democrat's reasoning for the behavior..



“I have no problem with someone disagreeing with positions I hold,” Bishop said, noting that, for the time being, he was using other platforms to communicate with his constituents. “But I also believe no one is served if you can’t talk through differences.”

“I think it’s just the fact that we are dealing with some of the most important public policy issues in a generation,” said Rep. Bruce Braley (D-Iowa), who was confronted by a protester angry about his position on health care reform at a town hall event several weeks ago.


“I think in general what is going on is we are tackling issues that have been ignored for a long time, and I think that is disruptive to a lot of people,” said Bishop, a four-term congressman. “We are trying, one by one, to deal with a set of issues that can’t be ignored, and I think that’s unsettling to a lot of people.”




LOL! Uhm....I dont think they "get it"...do you??

[edit on 31-7-2009 by Daytomann]



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:04 PM
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This is from the article linked in the OP...


Democrats, acknowledging the increasing unruliness of the town-hall-style events, say the hot-button issues they are taking on have a lot to do with it.

“I think it’s just the fact that we are dealing with some of the most important public policy issues in a generation,” said Rep. Bruce Braley (D-Iowa), who was confronted by a protester angry about his position on health care reform at a town hall event several weeks ago.

“I think in general what is going on is we are tackling issues that have been ignored for a long time, and I think that is disruptive to a lot of people,” said Bishop, a four-term congressman. “We are trying, one by one, to deal with a set of issues that can’t be ignored, and I think that’s unsettling to a lot of people.”


Maybe I'm just a jaded old amphibian - but does anyone else read the above as though he is basically saying... "Yes people may be upset. But, that's OK because we know what's best no matter what they say."??

I don't think people are upset that they are dealing with long standing issues. I think people are upset with how they are dealing with long standing issues.



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by finemanm
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I blame Bush for that. People got so fed up with his administration that they voted who ever was different from Bush - not republican - even if that person is a left wing looney (insert Obama here).




OMG.... You seriously have to be much smarter then this comment reflects. The people that voted in Mr. Indonesia and all 57 of his states are the ones that got caught up in "Hope", "Change", "Yes we can" messages..... They didn't think about what they were doing but enjoyed the excitement of this guy. Not the context of what he said but what he said with his pretty mouth. This has nothing to do with Bush. Enough of that. Those that voted in Mr. Hopey Changy and will have that stain on their souls.

These are also the same people who don't accept personal responsibility, don't accept the consequences of their actions (like voting for a socialist and blaming it on Bush) and expect things to be handed to them....



*edit spelling

[edit on 31-7-2009 by Roadblockx]



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:14 PM
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My Response Per My Blog


So government what say you? What do you have to say you two party organized crime cabal? You continue the theft of the people of not only this generation but two or three generations to come and you expect people to roll over? Enough is enough.

You allowed Enron to screw us and we said nothing.
You allowed 9/11 to happen and we said nothing.
You allowed the energy companies to rape us and we said nothing.
You took us into an unnecessary war in Iraq costing us a trillion dollars while enriching your friends and we said nothing.
You allowed the banks to screw us and we said nothing.
We allowed you to steal our rights via the patriot act and military commissions act and we said nothing.
You continue to bailout and backstop banks who are making record profits and keeping them while shoving the losses down our throats, expand Bush's illegal wiretaps and other liberty thefts, make government MORE secretive, expand the nation building and wars overseas, find ways to kill the 2nd amendment like you did the 1st, 4th, & 5th, blatantly ignore the people who you work for, pass HUGE bills without reading them, allow more and more lobbyists in your administration, pass cap n trade off as some green bill while it enriches the banksters even more and on and on and on THE PEOPLE ARE FED UP!!!!!!

Obama don't push this on Bush he is gone. We booted him and the Republicans out of office for starting this #. YOU promised change. YOU promised transparency. YOU promised you would end the nation building. YOU promised the banking theft was a thing of the past. YOU promised the scum in Washington would be drained. YOU promised more government transparency while at the same time closing lists of visitors to the White House, yes Obama YOU are the president and your change is a farce. The people are fed up. We are silent NO MORE. Democrats and Republicans YOU ARE ALL CRIMINALS and borderline treasonous to the Constitution in which you swear on oath to. It's time to get wild people. Protest, make calls, visit your reps offices.

Bring on the debate Ive had enough.....



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:17 PM
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double post

[edit on 31-7-2009 by tjeffersonsghost]



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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Come on now. Bush had his strings pulled just as hard by TPTB, I know many hard core Republicans that switched parties because of the B.S. that was going on, now O.B. is getting his strings yanked even harder.

The Presidential choices that we're laid before the people in 2008 were terrible IMO.

We need to get rid of the 2 party system.



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Daytomann
I love some of the Democrat's reasoning for the behavior..



“I have no problem with someone disagreeing with positions I hold,” Bishop said, noting that, for the time being, he was using other platforms to communicate with his constituents. “But I also believe no one is served if you can’t talk through differences.”

“I think it’s just the fact that we are dealing with some of the most important public policy issues in a generation,” said Rep. Bruce Braley (D-Iowa), who was confronted by a protester angry about his position on health care reform at a town hall event several weeks ago.


“I think in general what is going on is we are tackling issues that have been ignored for a long time, and I think that is disruptive to a lot of people,” said Bishop, a four-term congressman. “We are trying, one by one, to deal with a set of issues that can’t be ignored, and I think that’s unsettling to a lot of people.”




LOL! Uhm....I dont think they "get it"...do you??

[edit on 31-7-2009 by Daytomann]


Evidently promoting the general welfare means something completly different to THEM!! Maybe they believe that we should all be broke and placed on welfare.



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:27 PM
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Your my new hero T.J.'s ghost.



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by 5 oClock
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We need to get rid of the 2 party system.



We don't have a two-party system anymore. We have a one party system that pretends to be two parties, and when a so-called 'third' party comes around - supporters are all ridiculed by the media about 'throwing away their votes.'

Think about it.



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:36 PM
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you guys are acting like this minority of loonies are preaching what should be implemented tomorrow. Go to a town meeting and be civil, don't start screaming at your elected officials because new policies are being put forth and because you think the President was born in Kenya...

Old people love complaining about things. I know I'm generalizing but they return fruit to Stop and Shop (use to work there). No matter what you do you are going to get a backlash from people... doesn't necessarily mean they are correct, or any of you are correct since it seems the majority of the people on this board hate Socialism.

We have a democracy where we vote people in. If they do a crappy job then vote them out next time. Easy as that. The world isn't going to stop spinning because health care is extended or because we are more and more in debt as a country.

So go ahead and call me a 'sheep' and tell me that it will be too late before I 'wake up' and that i have to drink 'kool aide' or something like that, I don't care anymore. At this point I'm happy to see this reform, it's a relief from the past 8 years of nothing positive happening. I'm also content with the fact that these people may disagree with their politicians and me (I support a lot of the new policies, especially the domestic terrorism one), but that they are just ants at a picnic.



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by Daytomann
“I think in general what is going on is we are tackling issues that have been ignored for a long time, and I think that is disruptive to a lot of people,” said Bishop, a four-term congressman. “We are trying, one by one, to deal with a set of issues that can’t be ignored, and I think that’s unsettling to a lot of people.”


This man is one of the people running my Country?? He has no idea why the people are really angry!
We need to vote these morons out of office for being totally incompetent.....well, maybe not so incompetent, they just think we're all stupid.



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 02:56 PM
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Oh I couldn't agree with you more. I think it was a joke the options we had. (Side note: I am working on a piece to publish here regarding FEMA and why the Republicans needed McCain to lose and BHO to win).

Back to this... There are two parties that get mentioned the most because the MSM doesn't want us dumb folk to get confused with more then a couple options. Sure there are more parties to pick from but they don't get the coverage that some deserve. H3ll, the MSM barely gives BHO the honest coverage he deserves.

I hope this idea of protesting and disrupting these meetings catches on. Before people were too busy working and doing their day-to-day activities. Now with so much unemployment, there is a little more time to review what is going on and we are P1SSED! Maybe there will be a new party formed by those leaving the Dems and Reps after seeing what the "dumb folk" can do in large numbers.....




posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 03:00 PM
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I think a lot of folks are missing what's really going on with these new protests.

While we've always had protestors in small numbers over every possible subject under the sun, no one seems to have taken note of the NATURE of these new protestors.

Older, white, tax-paying, God-fearing folks are the ones we've never, ever seen protesting before, but are now.

These elderly folks we see waving the flags and holding the signs are what has been termed our "greatest generation." Those who fought foreign powers to free many nations, and then in turn built this United States from a sleepy giant to the leading economic and manufacturing power in the world.

They've had enough.

Their children, today in their fifties and sixties have also had enough.

Their children in their thirties and forties have had enough.

It's taken three generations for liberals to undo everything the greatest generation created.

As humorist Jerry Clower once said when he was caught in a tree trying to knock the raccoon down with a stick, and then was attacked by the raccoon, he yelled to the men below with guns, "Shoot! Shoot! One of us has to have some relief!"

We're about to have an ending to the current facists leadership, and it's going to be up to those who make it through to the other side to see if we can also have a new beginning.

This will NOT continue.

This will NOT stand.

And if you think it will, you're as green as a garden catapillar.



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by Roadblockx


I hope this idea of protesting and disrupting these meetings catches on. Before people were too busy working and doing their day-to-day activities. Now with so much unemployment, there is a little more time to review what is going on and we are P1SSED! Maybe there will be a new party formed by those leaving the Dems and Reps after seeing what the "dumb folk" can do in large numbers.....



I don't know about that. I'm all for getting your voice heard but it seems like that would just give politicians more reasons not to hold these meetings anymore.

Hell, why don't any of you guys run for office? You seem to be furious enough about whats going on but I have yet to see a post on ATS stating "I am running for office to bring REAL change"

Just saying!



posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 03:05 PM
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Well that is what they get for years of not listening to their constituents. If they don't like the backlash I would suggest opening up their mail and reading what the people want them to do for a change.

Between ramrodded legislation, non responsive representation, bailouts to companies that put us in this mess to begin with, ineffectual blathering at CEO's whom they are known to be in bed with and just plain old party politics as usual. It's understandable that the American public is upset. They should be.

And dammit if these morons weren't just ignoring the voters until election time they would understand that.




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